User talk:Melan

Test Unblock Request
^The template above was me testing how to accept or decline unblock requests. Hopefully I won't actually need to do that for real here. Melan (talk) 18:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Testing
Hello,

I've just been made aware of an issue with one of your tests so I'd like to remind you of a few of our rules: Thanks, RhinosF1 (talk) 06:16, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You should revert your tests.
 * Your edit summaries must remain appropriate at all times.
 * You must not add the bot right to non-bot accounts like your own. You may add it to a bot account for testing but only consuls can approve bots for long term use.
 * I will follow all the rules here from now on. Melan (talk) 10:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Adding categories using HotCat to pages
Hi Melan,

I hope that you are doing well and learning lots. I noticed at Flow, with this edit, you added a redlinked category which doesn't exist in the Category: namespace. Doing so adds the request to Special:WantedCategories. Here we are just testing, so there's no need to create that category, but I just thought I'd point that out as a tip when you are managing your own public wiki. Also, have a look at the Special:CategoryTree to see browse the hierarchical arrangement of categories by parent category. To find the parent categories, I find using Special:AllPages, filtered by Category: namespace to be helpful.

Aside from that, whether you are adding redlinked or bluelinked (actual categories exist) to test pages, please try and remember to revert your testing. There are always administrators who can practice their mopping to clean up when reviewing Special:RecentChanges, but it's also a good practice when you are running, moderating, or even editing on a public wiki to clean up one's own testing.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ping me or another administrator. :)

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 14:22, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
Hello,

Please immediately stop hiding log entries for no reason unless it is a test that you will quickly revert. If you continue to breach our policy, your rights will be removed and you may be blocked. RhinosF1 (talk) 12:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I got busy with something else and forgot to revert. (And I didn't want it to be known that I was testing the CheckUser block template for some reason). I'll revert my tests from now on. Melan (talk) 12:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. RhinosF1 (talk) 12:36, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Language in your tests
Hi Melan,

I noticed that you recently tried creating, and deleting, a structured discussion page at Talk:Flow. You deleted topic Topic:Vo41awcxwtb45zz2, after testing, which I was pleased to see. However, I couldn't help but notice your language at Topic:Vo41awcxwtb45zz2. In a Discord discussion channel or on IRC, I have no problems with cursing—heck, I do it as well. In a public setting, though, as administrators, we must set model behaviour for our users. I do realize you were almost certainly just kidding around or trying to think of some text to write in your test, but surely you can think of something else to say besides that. I find, "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dogs," works well in tests. :)

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 04:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Given this has happened before and the numerous warnings you have had across both your accounts, I am revoking your rights. Further inappropiate testing will result in a block. RhinosF1 (talk) 05:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. I should have had better sense than to write something like that. Will I be able to regain my rights here at a later date if I test properly for a while ? Melan (talk) 08:44, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that it came to a desysoping, but I personally would support you regaining at least administrator privileges, but not before at least 30-90 days. But it is not my call to make unilaterally. In that time, I hope to help to develop a new administrators' curriculum that I know has been talked about as an idea on here. This curriculum would walk administrators through the technical aspects of the administrator functions (i.e., the "admin toolkit"), but also common behavioural expectations as well. There would also be a series of quizzes and a test. My hope is that, while this new administrator school curriculum could be used by all new administrators proactively, it would also be mandated by bureaucrats / consuls in any future resysoping. But, as of now, I would suggest that you need to wait—perform any constructive test edits in your User:Melan/sandbox and revert any edits. If after a considerable period of time, you've shown us that your edits (which will require patrolling) are normal test edits and, thus, constructive, I'd be willing to advocate for you going through such an administrator school program. But again, I can only advocate this; ultimately, the decision will need to be made by, as the actioning consul, supported by other input from other consuls, bureaucrats, and/or administrators, as applicable / warranted. Dmehus (talk) 15:16, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, . I'll be patient and test in my sandbox. The administrator school program sounds like a great idea; I hope that it can come to fruition here before too long. Melan (talk) 16:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can regain rights once 24 days have passed. RhinosF1 (talk) 16:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I have blocked you from one month for editing. I'm not a fan of blocks, so if I've blocked you, that's saying something., or another consul, is free to extend the block or unblock you, if they so wish, but despite your promising to remain constructive in your edits above, your test on 's userpage (diff) was wholly inappropriate—you should not be testing on others' user pages, and should be reverting your tests. I would suggest you reflect on your editing and actions, do not edit while logged out, and do not create or use other accounts while blocked. If after 30 days, or whenever the block is expired or released, you've shown to have done this, you stand in good stead to be welcomed back, at least initially as a user. Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I was just about to unblock you, but has already done so. I do see that you were reverting the vandalism by the IP editor on MrJaroslavik's userpage. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I'll try to be as helpful as I can in reverting any edits that look like vandalism, and if I make a mistake, let me know. Melan (talk) 16:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * My apologies for the block. I can't say anything more than that at this point, but if you do find vandalism or what you think to be vandalism, please revert it. If it's on another user's userpage, it may be best to ping either (a) that user, if they're an administrator or (b) another administrator, if they're not an administrator, to look further into it. Dmehus (talk) 16:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

What's happening? It was my test on my userpage as result with playing with filters. This is evident from the recent changes. I am working on filters for Czech Wikipedia. Filter edits mixed with editing my user page. Sorry, in next time, I will use any sandbox subpage... And sorry, I did not rollback my test edits. --MrJaroslavik (talk) 02:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. That's exactly what I figured out happened. Melan saw those tests as vandalism, not realizing that you were needing to test the abuse filters as a non-registered editor. So, she reverted the edits, in good-faith. I erred, to which I welcome a trouting, in not fully looking through all of the edit diffs as it occurred just hours after the above discussion. All is well and resolved now, though, so worries. Dmehus (talk) 03:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Blocked

 * You simply won't refrain from using inappropiate language in your tests. RhinosF1 (talk) 07:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)