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::::::::: '''Concur completely.''' [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|Bureaucrat]] should require a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] to grant, given the level of trust required for that role. {{ping|TrustedInstaller}}, you can re-apply at [[TestWiki:Request permissions]] for [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] on or after '''20 August 2020'''. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::: I've just seen this and TI is right here. A 6 month block would not have been appropriate had it not been an open proxy. That situation does seem to be resolved bar some blacklists caching it. Revoking sysop rights for unblocking someone when the situation is resolved is not an appropriate reason to revoke. If TrustedInstaller wishes to gain his rights back, I see no reason why not. The only thing I'm wondering is how he knew to go straight for that block to remove. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 07:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::: To add to my discussion on [[meta:Discord|Discord]], my reason for revoking the rights wasn't simply because TrustedInstaller unblocked an IP address, but it was the fact that he focused on ''that'' particular IP address used, presumably, by an LTA that Naleksuh monitors over on the Wikimedia projects or other wikis. Perhaps I should've questioned the original block of the IP, but it seemed consistent the block length used by [[meta:Stewards|stewards]] when blocking anonymous users for LTA and related issues, so simply opted to defer to you on that when you reviewed the block logs for TestWiki. Because of that, I was concerned that TrustedInstaller may continue with unblocking further LTAs, so removed the rights, at least in the short-term, in order for the user to provide a satisfactory explanation for the removal of that block and also why one of the user's ''first'' actions was to unblock ''that'' IP address, which didn't jive with the reason for requesting rights (i.e., "to test the MediaWiki interface") at [[TestWiki:Request permissions]]. I agree, though, I should've been more ''direct'' with TrustedInstaller in, and better articulated, my concerns. In fairness, I ''did'' hesitate on placing a two-week moratorium for re-requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]], but since you're satisfied, I see no problem with TrustedInstaller re-requesting that right immediately, with either a strong recommendation that they test the other administrator tools (since they seem to be familiar with blocking/unblocking IP addresses). [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 14:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
== Preferred test namespaces, cleaning up after/reverting test edits, and [[w:Wikipedia:RedWarn|RedWarn for testing outside of English Wikipedia]] ==
Hi TrustedInstaller,
It is good to see that you are making good use of the [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] tools; however, as part of my daily review of the [[Special:Log|public logs]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|recent contributions]], I noted several items, neither of which are particularly problematic but nonetheless provide useful points to note for the future, so as to avoid potential future problems. I've listed them below, in unordered bullet point form.
* '''Preferred test namespaces.''' I noticed your creation, protection, and subsequent deletion of a test page in project namespace that began with [[Special:Redirect/logid/9060|this log action]]. As noted by the new page notice in project namespace, '''TestWiki:''' namespace is primarily used for [[:Category:Non-test pages|non-test pages]], whether categorized in that category or not, related to the '''Public Test Wiki''' project. You ''are''; however, free to test in most other namespaces, though '''Main:''' and '''User:''' are probably the most common testing namespaces.
* '''Cleaning up after and/or reverting test edits.''' Per [[TestWiki:Testing policy#After testing|this section of our testing policy]], please try and ensure that you always revert every test action you make. While you ''did'' delete the [[TestWiki:Example page]] after creating it, I noted in one of the intervening edits when you [[Special:Diff/28466|protected the page]], you didn't unprotect it. This isn't necessarily a ''problem'', per se, in that deleted pages with outstanding page protections don't show up in [[Special:ProtectedPages]], so it's not essential or anything that you restore the page temporarily to unprotect it (though you certainly ''can'', if you want), it is a really good best practice to remove page protection prior to deleting it.
* '''Using [[w:Wikipedia:RedWarn|RedWarn for testing outside of English Wikipedia]].''' I noticed [[Special:Permalink/28484|this edit]] of your planned usage of the English Wikipedia vandalism reverting tool '''RedWarn''', so it piqued my interest to see if RedWarn was now available on wikis outside of English Wikipedia now. Sadly, it [[w:Wikipedia:RedWarn#Other wikis|doesn't seem to be yet]]. (I also quickly checked [[w:Wikipedia talk:RedWarn|the companion talk page]] on English Wikipedia.) So, I just thought I'd send you this friendly note before attempting to edit, as I know the RedWarn developers do caution strongly against attempting to use the unmodified, imported script on other wikis.
Anyway, that's all I had for now, and I hope you find these tips helpful for the future in making the most out of '''Public Test Wiki'''. :)
Cheers,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 18:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
== Blocking users based on the [[User:Abuse filter|abuse filter]] ==
Hi TrustedInstaller,
While I noted that you haven't acknowledged my guidance notes in the above section, to ensure that you've acknowledged them, since [[w:Wikipedia:Communication is required|two-way communication is so essential]] here, I ''did'' note your recent [[Special:Redirect/logid/9191|block]] of [[User:AurelioCottle|AurelioCottle]] based on their locally ''[[Special:AbuseLog/844|triggering]]'' [[meta:Special:AbuseFilter/18|global abuse filter 18]]. While this block is fine since it's so obviously a spam-only account, I just thought I should advise you that we have a global team of [[meta:Global Sysops|Global Sysops]] and [[meta:Stewards|stewards]] that generally take care of the obvious spam-only account global blocks and locks, to reduce the need for redundant local blocks on multiple wikis.
As well, since the user was prevented by this global abuse filter from inserting patently obvious spam onto any page on this wiki, the [[User:Abuse filter|abuse filter]] did its job. It is good that you are alert and attentive to these things, but I also just wanted to make sure that you have been advised to be ''very'' cautious when blocking users based strictly on the abuse filters.
Thanks for your understanding and attention to this guidance.
Cheers,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 18:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
== [[w:Wikipedia:Communication is required|Communication is required]] ==
Hi again TrustedInstaller,
Noting further local block of a spam-only account, in [[Special:Redirect/logid/9192|this log action]], by way of a reply to this discussion thread, please confirm that you have acknowledged the guidance notes in the above two sections, since [[w:Wikipedia:Communication is required|two-way communication is required]].
Cheers,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:02, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
:Indeed, I did block a spam-only account. I used the appropriate block message and there is nothing wrong with locally blocking a spam-only account. [[User:TrustedInstaller|TrustedInstaller]] ([[User talk:TrustedInstaller|talk]]) 19:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|TrustedInstaller}} Yes, I'm not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with it, other than it does create needless local clutter in the [[Special:BlockList|blocked users list]]. We do have [[User:Example]] and [[User:Example2]] that can be blocked and unblocked freely. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:14, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
== Final Warning ==
Hi TrustedInstaller,
Over the course of the past hour, you've managed to import nearly 700 templates from English Wikipedia, mainly relating to public IP address block templates and various Wikipedia-specific infoboxes. You've not yet deleted each of those added templates, for which you've previously been warned above ensuring you clean up after yourself.
I would strongly urge you to explain, in detail, your ''purpose'' for using '''Public Test Wiki''' because, right now, all I have seen is a combination of disruptive editing and behaviour and a general lack of collegiality toward your fellow [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrators]], as demonstrated by your responses above.
So, this is your '''final warning''' that if you breach ''any'' of [[TestWiki:Policies|our policies]], including unwritten customs and conventions, for which you're encouraged to proactively reach out to any [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] or [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|Bureaucrat]] where you are unsure if something is permitted here, ''or'' anything which has been previously addressed to you above, your rights will be revoked for a period to be determined by any [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]].
Cheers,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 14:13, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
== Rights revoked ==
Hi TrustedInstaller,
As a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] action, I have [[Special:Redirect/logid/10675|revoked]] [[Special:Redirect/logid/10674|your]] [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] permissions '''indefinitely''', mainly as a result of your complete [[w:Wikipedia:Communication is required|failure to communicate]] and demonstrate that you are [[w:WP:IDHT|understanding the concerns expressed to you]]. In addition, your attempt to import more useless Wikipedia templates again was in breach of your [[Special:Diff/29787|final warning]].
As this is technically an indefinite restriction imposed by a local Consul, you are also reminded of our global policy, [[meta:User accounts policy|user accounts policy]], with respect to using multiple accounts to evade scrutiny or otherwise attempt to circumvent locally or globally, as applicable, imposed restrictions.
Kindly govern yourself accordingly.
Thanks,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:51, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
== Blocked ==
{{Blocked|1=1 week}}
Hi TrustedInstaller,
I have blocked you for a period of '''1 week''' for your edit warring with a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] by reverting, repeatedly, the Consul's [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] reversions of your edits, and for your continued [[w:WP:IDHT|disruptive editing]] and for your [[w:Wikipedia:Communication is required|failure to communicate]].
Upon your return, your indefinite Consul-imposed editing restriction, described above, remains in '''full force'''. Additionally, if another Consul should decide to ''extend'' your sitewide temporary block, I would not be opposed.
Kind regards,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 20:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
== Reblocked ==
{{blocked|indefinite}}
[[User:Kiko4564|Kiko4564]] ([[User talk:Kiko4564|talk]]) 00:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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