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== Protection level of user talk pages, revision deletions, the [[TestWiki:Bots|bot]] flag, and test edits ==
Hi Synoman Barris,
I see that you are making the most of the <code>[[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]]</code> tools and the <code>[[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> bit. However, as part of my daily review of our [[Special:Log|public logs]], I noticed several important items I thought I should address with you, so that you know them for the future. Most of our [[TestWiki:Policies|policies]] are outlined, but we ''do'' rely a lot on a combination of [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]] and unwritten ''customs'' and ''conventions'' that have normalized over time, so it's often helpful to advise users of these customs and conventions as they occur. Each is discussed in turn.
* '''Protection level of user talk pages.''' User talk pages should not be set any higher than <code>[[TestWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]]</code> or <code>[[TestWiki:Users|registered, logged in]]</code> user levels. This is because a [[TestWiki:Bots|bot and/or maintenance script]] need access to user talk pages in order to administer the [[TestWiki:Inactivity|inactivity notifications]], as applicable, from time to time. Secondarily, as bureaucrats, we grant user rights, which sometimes are requested on our user talk pages. Additionally, non-administrators may have questions of us. Thus, for these reasons, we should not protect our user talk pages higher than those levels, as you did in [[Special:Diff/28494|this edit]].
* '''Revision deletions.''' Unless it's on [[revision deletion test]], you should always revert any revision deletions, and ''never'' hide the ''performer'' (principally, or most often, ''you'') of the action. We value transparency on '''Public Test Wiki''', so there is almost never a reason to hide the performer, as you did in [[Special:Redirect/logid/9090|this log action]].
* '''The <code>[[TestWiki:Bots|bot]]</code> flag'''. While [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrats]] ''can'' grant, technically and procedurally, the <code>[[TestWiki:Bots|bot]]</code> flag, usually to their own account or sub-accounts, it should ''only'' be done for a ''temporary'' basis to prevent things like [[Special:RecentChanges]] flooding, as you did with your [[User:Syno sock|sub-account]] [[Special:Redirect/logid/9087|here]] and [[Special:Redirect/logid/9089|here]]. If you want to apply for a full, permanent bot account, you can request it at [[TestWiki:Bot approval requests]], and a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] will review your request in due course.
* '''Reverting test edits.''' Per [[TestWiki:Testing policy#After testing|this policy sub-section]], you should always make sure you are undoing ''any'' test edits or log actions, including test page creations, test blocks, and other actions, broadly construed. I've noticed you are mostly doing this, and this is to your great credit, but have noted a few instances where it was not, so thought it would be a good reminder.
Thanks for your attention to these notes, and happy testing! :)
Cheers,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
== [[meta:No open proxies policy|Open proxy]] blocking ==
Hi Synoman Barris,
I personally have no issues with you blocking open proxy IP addresses per the global [[meta:No open proxies policy|no open proxies]] policy as it's somewhere between harmless and potentially useful in that your blocking the open proxy IP addresses ''does'' create an entry in the <code>'''[[irccloud:#cvt-feed|#cvt-feed]]'''</code>, which ''may'' give it an elevated prominence to [[meta:Global Sysops|Global Sysops]] and [[meta:Stewards|stewards]]. However, my only question is how you arrived at the varied duration of the blocks? Since they're anonymous only soft or soft-ish blocks, my first thought would be to make the local blocks for a 3-6 months, consistent with the global convention for such blocks. However, I could also see blocking for only a couple weeks to a month, since, presumably, these would be blocked on a global level eventually.
Anyway, hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
:Hello {{re|Dmehus}}, I use a tool to approximate how long the proxies are open. The two week block are for proxies which I believe can be closed soon, or do you have a suggestion in mind? --[[User:Synoman Barris|Synoman Barris]] ([[User talk:Synoman Barris|talk]]) 16:38, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|Synoman Barris}} I am not aware of anything, no. If you've used such a tool, I'll trust your judgment. Maybe my [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] colleague {{ping|Reception123}}, also a [[meta:Global Sysops|Global Sysop]], has an idea. Did you see my reply about potential housekeeping in '''Template:''' namespace (i.e., unused or little use out of scope test template imports)? [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
:::{{re|Dmehus}} Seems like I missed the ping, where did you post that? --[[User:Synoman Barris|Synoman Barris]] ([[User talk:Synoman Barris|talk]]) 16:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Synoman Barris}} It's on [[User talk:Dmehus|my user talk page]]; I left the thread open until you've read it and replied and/or otherwise acknowledged it (i.e., 'thanks'). [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 17:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
::::{{re|Dmehus}} I am also curious, what did you mean by '''your blocking the open proxy IP addresses ''does'' create an entry in the <code>'''[[irccloud:#cvt-feed|#cvt-feed]]'''</code>, which ''may'' give it an elevated prominence to [[meta:Global Sysops|Global Sysops]] and [[meta:Stewards|stewards]]'''. --[[User:Synoman Barris|Synoman Barris]] ([[User talk:Synoman Barris|talk]]) 16:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Synoman Barris}} Oh, good question. Yeah, <code>'''#cvt-feed'''</code> is an [[meta:IRC|IRC]] [[Special:RecentChanges|RecentChanges]] feed for ''all'' public Miraheze wikis. It's used mainly by [[meta:Stewards|stewards]] and [[meta:Global Sysops|Global Sysops]] to monitor cross-wiki vandalism or abuse more efficiently. We used to have [[meta:User:Proxybot|Proxybot]] that I mentioned that automatically blocked open proxies, but it hasn't functioned for quite awhile now, so global functionaries mainly monitor, presumably, the same sort of open proxy lists you monitor as well as notifications in that IRC feed. It generally reports [[Special:AbuseLog|AbuseLog]] and [[Special:Block|block]] entries from public wikis, as well as certain keywords that may indicate either (a) vandalism or (b) [[meta:Code of Conduct|Code of Conduct]] harassment or other violations. There are also wiki-specific feeds that you can have a [[mh:bots|MirahezeBots project]] developer setup, including for ''your'' wiki, if you wish. Well, you can actually create the IRC channel (usually in the format <code>'''#miraheze-feed-''wikiname'''''</code>), and then a MirahezeBots developer will add one of the IRC bots to your IRC feed. You can also join our TestWiki channel at [[irccloud:#miraheze-testwiki|#miraheze-testwiki]] or monitor TestWiki's RC feed at [[irccloud:#miraheze-feed-test|#miraheze-feed-test]]. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 17:03, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
::::::{{Ping|Dmehus}} Hello Dmehus, how can I know when a wiki of mine has been created. I never receive pings if my Wiki is created or declined e.t.c. Thanks --[[User:Synoman Barris|Synoman Barris]] ([[User talk:Synoman Barris|talk]]) 15:20, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|Synoman Barris}} Thank you for the question. I have actually just finished creating a new wiki, [[mh:netflix|Netflix wiki]]. As to ''not'' receiving Echo notifications (a.k.a. "pings"), that ''was'' a long-standing shortcoming in [[meta:Special:RequestWiki|Special:RequestWiki]]; however, {{ping|John}}, as part of a significant feature improvement to RequestWiki, recently resolved this. So, you should be receiving your Echo notifications fairly shortly after a request is updated. Hope this helps. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:09, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
== Inactivity ==
Hello, In accordance with [[TestWiki:Inactivity]], I am writing to inform you that your user rights will be removed on or after '''26 January 2021''' if you do not return to activity.
Please inform me if you would like to retain your rights and/or be made exempt from inactivity rules.
In the event you wish to return to TestWiki after the above date, you may re-request rights via [[TestWiki:Request permissions]].
Thanks,
:[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) on behalf of [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]]
:For the Consul Team
:16:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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== Inactivity ==
Per [[TestWiki:Inactivity]], I have removed the user rights that you held from your account. If at any time you wish to re-gain these permissions, you may request for them at [[TestWiki:Request permissions]] or [[User talk:Dmehus|my user talk page]]. Thanks, [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) for [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 14:06, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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== April 2022 ==
Please be aware of the notice regarding your actions at [[User talk:ApexAgunomu]] and the warning now in effect. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 10:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{u|RhinosF1}} Have you seen that the user was actively deleting translation units at that time even after multiple warnings.The best action I sought was to block the user to prevent further disruption as o fixed the mess.If thats what will we call disruption from my part, I consider it best to hand over my tools since I clearly don't understand their use. Cheers --[[User:Synoman Barris|Synoman Barris]] ([[User talk:Synoman Barris|talk]]) 12:07, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
::I don't think they thought you were being disruptive (though I certainly was). They just prefer that you contact one of them on the IRC channel (the link to which is on the main page) instead of blocking someone as they are readily available and can determine the best course of action. [[User:ApexAgunomu|ApexAgunomu]] ([[Special:Contribs/ApexAgunomu|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:ApexAgunomu|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 12:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Please abide by your restriction. This is not your user space. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 12:14, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
::I do not see that in a log but I don't believe you had to act immediately. You could have contacted any consul first given the sanctions were a consul action. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 12:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
::Hello, we didn't say you were disruptive, just that you were going too fast. I myself considered your action to be in good faith (in view of all the warnings and the fact that you did not block it indefinitely and asked for future review for consul who I left a message on IRC). So, don't take this warning as a punishement, just a remember of the policy. [[User:HeartsDo|HeartsDo]] ([[User talk:HeartsDo|talk]]) 13:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
::I saw that you remove your rights. No needed. It's just better to wait before taking any admin action and if you see something abusive to warn the user and inform lrc. You are welcome to return whenever you want :) [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Hello AlPaD, thanks for stopping by. I don't see myself coming back. I've always appreciated a collaborative environment where bureaucracy is not to the extreme. I won't find that here where even good faith requests are treated with toxicity. It's been nice interacting with helpful users as yourself.Cheers --[[User:Synoman Barris|Synoman Barris]] ([[User talk:Synoman Barris|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
::::OK. Thank you for your help and your kind words! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 11:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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