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 '''Attention:''' I prefer to keep discussions unfragmented. If you leave a comment for me here, I will most likely respond to it on this same page—''my talk page''—as an effort to keep the entire conversation in one place. By the same token, if ''I'' leave a comment on ''your talk page'', please respond to it ''there''. Remember, we can use our [[special:watchlist|watchlist]] to keep track of when responses are made. At the same time, feel free to send an alert to me on this page about a comment you have left elsewhere. And again, please do not delete discussions of my talk page, it is my own decision. <!-----Per WP:OWNTALK-----> Thanks!</div>
-== TestWiki editing restriction ==
-{{anchor|Revised TestWiki editing restriction}}
-Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,
-Following discussions with all of the other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]], your [[Special:Diff/31359|existing temporary, thirty (30) calendar editing restriction]] on TestWiki
-has been rescinded and replaced with the following, indefinite editing restriction, which is has you subject to the following prohibitions, restrictions, and/or requirements (collectively, "the conditions"):
-# Prohibition on requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
-# Requirement that you obtain [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] of the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] before requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]];
-# Prohibition on editing [[TestWiki:Request permissions]], which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
-# Prohibition on page, redirect, and template [[Special:MovePage|page moves]];
-# Prohibition on deleting any page, redirect, or template, which you, ''yourself'', did not create; and,
-# Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] before ''creating'' any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.
-Additionally, if any of these conditions are breached, given the number of cautionary notes and warnings you've had related to your [[w:WP:IDHT|disruptive]], albeit [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], editing, any [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] may reimpose either a sitewide or partial block for any length of time, as {{ping|NDKilla}} articulated above.
-Finally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at [[TestWiki:Community portal]].
-Cheers,
-<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-:As a footnote to the above, revised, indefinite TestWiki editing restriction, any [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] approvals for any of the above restrictions '''must''' be provided on-wiki. Similarly, any acceptance of conditions of their providing an approval '''must''' also be done on-wiki. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Dmehus}} So, 1 month from the OG restriction? {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 17:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-::<nowiki>#</nowiki>1 lasts for 1 month, yes. #2-6 are indefinite, but can be appealed to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] after a reasonable period of time (likely several months, to be perfectly honest). No fixed time limit on when you can ask the Consuls on #2, but I would suggest at least a month after #1 expires. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::{{ping|Dmehus}} So basically Nov. 26. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 20:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} For requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]], yes, that's correct. For requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]], I recommend waiting until at least 26 December 2020 before asking for [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] [[w:WP:CON|consensus]]. Nevertheless, we have another matter to discuss, and that is your breach of your editing restriction (criterion # 4) in [[Special:Redirect/logid/12336|this log action]]. While it was [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] in that I don't personally see a point to that sub-stub page that repeats an established [[meta:User accounts policy|global policy]]. It would've been fine for you to suggest deletion or other action, but your moving the page to {{ping|Cactus754}}'s userspace was problematic. Care to explain? [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Yes. I moved the page to Cactus754 because he was the only editor for the page, having 3 revisions, all of them his. I left a message on his talk page as well, to notify him. See the message at [[User talk:Cactus754#Sock puppetry]]. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:11, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::While I personally agree with this decision, your doing that was in breach of your editing restriction here on TestWiki, which was put in place as you have a habit of [[w:WP:CIR|jumping in too quickly before fully understanding]] our [[TestWiki:Policies|policies]] and practices. I will discuss with Cactus754 their creation of that page separately. What concerns me is your ability, or inability, to abide by a current, in-force editing restriction on TestWiki. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} I'll try and remember next time. Sorry. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} Okay, thank you. Please ''do'' more than ''try''&mdash;you ''should'' focus incredibly hard at ''not'' doing that. Too many contraventions of your editing restriction, especially in a short period of time, would likely result in a sitewide block being reinstated, at least temporarily. I ''really'' don't want to see that happen. If you it difficult to govern yourself, I would suggest either (a) focusing on your Marvel Cinematic Universe wiki (ideally) or (b) taping your editing restriction to your monitor. Thanks. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Taped. LOL. I am gonna focus on my wiki, I'm just kinda busy. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::::{{Done|Great}}! [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} I would really, really, REALLY, like to be a Consul one day, though. You think it's possible in Feb-April 2021? {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::::::Well, for starters, we have historically only added 1-2 [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] ''per year'', as we really ''do'' have a small community, which is smaller than it was even last year, largely. So it becomes an issue, firstly, based on ''need'', but then we need to assess not just the ''quantity'' but the ''quality'' of one's contributions. I wouldn't suggest it's ''impossible'' or anything, but would rather see you focusing on becoming a productive [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]] again. Consuls can't really do that much more than bureaucrats, other than use [[Special:ManageWiki|ManageWiki]] and edit Consul-protected pages. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Okay. I'll try and help with admin once I get it. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:{{outdent|:::::::::::::}} I was under the impression that his topic ban only applied to articles, redirects, and templates. Does that count as an article although it is not in mainspace? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:41, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|Naleksuh}} The editing restriction/topic ban applies to ''pages'', ''redirects'', and ''templates''. We don't have ''articles'', per se, on TestWiki. It is not limited by namespace. Hope that clarifies. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)