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Greetings BrandomWM, congrats on being elected as a consul and I hope you prove your worthiness :) Harvici (talk) 15:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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 '''Attention:''' I prefer to keep discussions unfragmented. If you leave a comment for me here, I will most likely respond to it on this same page—''my talk page''—as an effort to keep the entire conversation in one place. By the same token, if ''I'' leave a comment on ''your talk page'', please respond to it ''there''. Remember, we can use our [[special:watchlist|watchlist]] to keep track of when responses are made. At the same time, feel free to send an alert to me on this page about a comment you have left elsewhere. And again, please do not delete discussions of my talk page, it is my own decision. <!-----Per WP:OWNTALK-----> Thanks!</div>
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-== Unblock ==
-{{Unblock reviewed|1=[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] I used an extension that was already there. It wasn't exploiting as it was enabled and no one had told me not to use it.|accept = Appeal accepted, subject to the following conditions articulated in [[Special:Diff/32163|this indefinite TestWiki editing restriction]], which replaced the [[Special:Diff/31359|previous, temporary TestWiki editing restriction]]. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)}}
+== Congratulations ==
-:What about the competency concerns expressed earlier? --[[User:Cactus754|Cactus754]] ([[User talk:Cactus754|talk]]) 21:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-:{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} Regarding your TestWiki unblock, this a little more problematic than I'd realized. For one thing, another [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] in {{ping|NDKilla}} has endorsed {{ping|Zppix}}' block as valid. So, it would be inappropriate for me to remove your block at this time. That's not to say this indefinite block is ''permanent'', but you need to propose a solution that would address your tendency to ''act'' before [[w:WP:CIR|fully understanding]] our policies, customs, and best practicies. Also, you have also mischaracterized what I said when you spoke to {{ping|Naleksuh}} by saying I said you could delete those templates. I have located our direct message conversation on [[meta:Discord|Discord]], to which you asked, "And, can I get rid of {{tl|admin}}?" I responded, "Yes, please. '''I'll delete it for you.'''" ('''''emphasis added'''''). So, not only did I ''not'' say that you could delete ''all'' of the templates; I specifically said I would do it for you, yet you exploited [[mw:Extension:DeleteUserPages|the DeleteUserPages]] extension, which has forced its disabling for everyone. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} A proposed remedy that would see your block conditionally lifted and replaced with a modified, and indefinite, editing restriction (sometimes called a "topic ban") has the support of {{ping|Zppix}}, myself, and, broadly speaking, {{ping|Reception123}}. We're just awaiting on the opinions of the remaining [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]]. Assuming it's not amended, the ''proposed'' editing restriction would consist of the following:
-::# Prohibition on requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
-::# Requirement that you obtain [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] of the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] before requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]];
-::# Prohibition on editing [[TestWiki:Request permissions]], which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
-::# Prohibition on page, redirect, and template [[Special:MovePage|page moves]]; and,
-::# Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] before ''creating'' any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.
-::Additionally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at [[TestWiki:Community portal]] [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-::: I would support an unblock upon agreement of these terms and note that upon violation of them that ''any administrator'' may reimpose the block as-is and it would not be considered a test block. My main concern is that you may potentially not have been "exploiting" as it is by design, moving pages to delete them via the extension seems like a loophole any competent person would have realized should be avoided. [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] ([[User talk:NDKilla|talk]]) 22:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-::::{{ping|NDKilla}} Really nice jab at my competency there, by the way, that really warms my heart. As for {{ping|Dmehus}}, #1, Sure, #2, agree, #3, how do I request admin without editing there, and can I approve requests for permissions on it if I'm a bureaucrat? Also, when does that expire? #4, How long? #5, sure. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 17:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::See my reply to these questions in the below section. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
+Greetings BrandomWM, congrats on being elected as a consul and I hope you prove your worthiness :) [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 15:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
-== TestWiki editing restriction ==
-{{anchor|Revised TestWiki editing restriction}}
-Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,
-Following discussions with all of the other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]], your [[Special:Diff/31359|existing temporary, thirty (30) calendar editing restriction]] on TestWiki
-has been rescinded and replaced with the following, indefinite editing restriction, which is has you subject to the following prohibitions, restrictions, and/or requirements (collectively, "the conditions"):
-# Prohibition on requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
-# Requirement that you obtain [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] of the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] before requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]];
-# Prohibition on editing [[TestWiki:Request permissions]], which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
-# Prohibition on page, redirect, and template [[Special:MovePage|page moves]];
-# Prohibition on deleting any page, redirect, or template, which you, ''yourself'', did not create; and,
-# Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] before ''creating'' any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.
-Additionally, if any of these conditions are breached, given the number of cautionary notes and warnings you've had related to your [[w:WP:IDHT|disruptive]], albeit [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], editing, any [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] may reimpose either a sitewide or partial block for any length of time, as {{ping|NDKilla}} articulated above.
-Finally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at [[TestWiki:Community portal]].
-Cheers,
-<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-:As a footnote to the above, revised, indefinite TestWiki editing restriction, any [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] approvals for any of the above restrictions '''must''' be provided on-wiki. Similarly, any acceptance of conditions of their providing an approval '''must''' also be done on-wiki. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Dmehus}} So, 1 month from the OG restriction? {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 17:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-::<nowiki>#</nowiki>1 lasts for 1 month, yes. #2-6 are indefinite, but can be appealed to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] after a reasonable period of time (likely several months, to be perfectly honest). No fixed time limit on when you can ask the Consuls on #2, but I would suggest at least a month after #1 expires. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::{{ping|Dmehus}} So basically Nov. 26. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 20:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} For requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]], yes, that's correct. For requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]], I recommend waiting until at least 26 December 2020 before asking for [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] [[w:WP:CON|consensus]]. Nevertheless, we have another matter to discuss, and that is your breach of your editing restriction (criterion # 4) in [[Special:Redirect/logid/12336|this log action]]. While it was [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] in that I don't personally see a point to that sub-stub page that repeats an established [[meta:User accounts policy|global policy]]. It would've been fine for you to suggest deletion or other action, but your moving the page to {{ping|Cactus754}}'s userspace was problematic. Care to explain? [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Yes. I moved the page to Cactus754 because he was the only editor for the page, having 3 revisions, all of them his. I left a message on his talk page as well, to notify him. See the message at [[User talk:Cactus754#Sock puppetry]]. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:11, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::While I personally agree with this decision, your doing that was in breach of your editing restriction here on TestWiki, which was put in place as you have a habit of [[w:WP:CIR|jumping in too quickly before fully understanding]] our [[TestWiki:Policies|policies]] and practices. I will discuss with Cactus754 their creation of that page separately. What concerns me is your ability, or inability, to abide by a current, in-force editing restriction on TestWiki. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} I'll try and remember next time. Sorry. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} Okay, thank you. Please ''do'' more than ''try''&mdash;you ''should'' focus incredibly hard at ''not'' doing that. Too many contraventions of your editing restriction, especially in a short period of time, would likely result in a sitewide block being reinstated, at least temporarily. I ''really'' don't want to see that happen. If you it difficult to govern yourself, I would suggest either (a) focusing on your Marvel Cinematic Universe wiki (ideally) or (b) taping your editing restriction to your monitor. Thanks. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Taped. LOL. I am gonna focus on my wiki, I'm just kinda busy. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::::{{Done|Great}}! [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} I would really, really, REALLY, like to be a Consul one day, though. You think it's possible in Feb-April 2021? {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::::::Well, for starters, we have historically only added 1-2 [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] ''per year'', as we really ''do'' have a small community, which is smaller than it was even last year, largely. So it becomes an issue, firstly, based on ''need'', but then we need to assess not just the ''quantity'' but the ''quality'' of one's contributions. I wouldn't suggest it's ''impossible'' or anything, but would rather see you focusing on becoming a productive [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]] again. Consuls can't really do that much more than bureaucrats, other than use [[Special:ManageWiki|ManageWiki]] and edit Consul-protected pages. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Okay. I'll try and help with admin once I get it. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 00:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-:{{outdent|:::::::::::::}} I was under the impression that his topic ban only applied to articles, redirects, and templates. Does that count as an article although it is not in mainspace? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:41, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|Naleksuh}} The editing restriction/topic ban applies to ''pages'', ''redirects'', and ''templates''. We don't have ''articles'', per se, on TestWiki. It is not limited by namespace. Hope that clarifies. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
-== November 2020 ==
-{{Blocked}}
-Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,
-This is very difficult for me to do, so with immense regrets, I have had no choice but to indefinitely block this account on TestWiki following your material breaches of [[meta:User accounts policy|user accounts policy]] in your [[Special:Diff/32462|requesting]] rights as [[User:SCVSlalom|SCVSlalom]], despite your having been indefinitely [[TestWiki:User restrictions|restricted]] from requesting rights on this wiki per the above warnings.
-You may appeal this no sooner than [[w:WP:STANDARDOFFER|standard offer]] of '''six months''' (inclusive of today).
-Cheers,
-<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
-== Unblock ==
-{{unblock reviewed | 1=I know what I did was wrong, I can explain. Consuls, please unblock me. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BrandonWM|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BlackWidowMovie0|contribs]])</small> <small>18:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)</small> | decline = While I'm certainly willing to entertain a successful appeal ''before'' the [[w:WP:STANDARDOFFER|standard offer]] articulated above, this appeal comes woefully short of our requirements for blocked users as it doesn't address the conditions that led to the user being blocked, and, crucially, ''how'' the user can be prevented from continuing the [[w:WP:IDHT|disruption]] going forward. As such, I have to, regrettably, decline this appeal at the time, and would recommend you consider how to successfully appeal over the next 30-60 days. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)}}
-:{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0}} Regarding your [[Special:Diff/32592|edit summary]], you [[Special:Diff/32592|reverted]] my unblock review. I'll [[w:WP:AGF|assume good faith]] that you did it unintentionally, but I would just note that this would've required at least '''two mouseclicks''' to revert, and then to dismiss the dialog option to open the reverted user's user talk page. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:33, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|Dmehus}} I have Twinkle, or something enabled, accidentally clicked '''[Revert (VANDAL)]''', and it opened a window, then closed it, and the edit was reverted. Sorry! {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 19:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::Okay, thank you. I would suggest disabling [[meta:Meta:Twinkle|Twinkle]] for the time being on this wiki, at least until (a) you are successfully unblocked and then (b) you have your [[TestWiki:User restrictions|editing restriction]] successfully removed. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
-==Unblock==
-{{unblock reviewed | 1= I know what I did was wrong, I can explain fully. I broke all trust by using an alternate account to avoid user restrictions imposed by Consuls. I can avoid disrupting the wiki again. How I will do this is: If I become disruptive again, block me for 2 weeks, non-appealable. Next time, 1 month. Time after that, 2 months, so on, so forth. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 17:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC) | decline = {{Not done}}, given the pattern of cross-wiki abuse that is occurring concurrently on Meta. As such, I'm revoking talk page access for three months, at which time you may appeal. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 18:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)}}
-:What!!!!! I didn't do anything. Please don't. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 18:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|Dmehus}} Might be a good idea to remove talk page access via page protection so that it can expire in three months. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 18:45, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-:::{{ping|Naleksuh}} Reasonable request, actually. I was going to diarise it to restore, but this is less work. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 18:54, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-::::{{ping|Naleksuh}} {{Done}}, and thanks for the good suggestion. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 18:57, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-== Inappropriate editing of users' [[mw:Extension:StructuredDiscussions|StructuredDiscussions]] board descriptions ==
-Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,
-Though you are still indefinitely blocked on TestWiki and subject to a further indefinite [[TestWiki:User restrictions|restriction]] should a future appeal prove successful, it has recently come to my attention that you [https://publictestwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmehus&action=compare-header-revisions&header_newRevision=vx2p9ht0pd42l0b2 inappropriately edited] my [[mw:Extension:StructuredDiscussions|StructuredDiscussions]] [[User talk:Dmehus|user talk page]] board description. Though ostensibly made in [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], this is '''''not''''' an edit I would've made myself, and I do not appreciate your making the edit rather surreptitiously amidst your [[Special:Contributions/BlackWidowMovie0|other editing]] at the time. Most troubling is that you did this without ''asking'' me, or, at the very least, ''advising'' me. Given that, please ensure you do '''''not''''' edit other users' user pages and user talk pages, broadly construed, other than to (a) ask them a question or (b) reply to a question you asked of them.
-Thanks,
-<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 20:29, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
-== Unblock Request ==
-{{unblock reviewed|1=I have stopped editing disruptively, and I have waited 3 months to appeal the reason for this block, which is violating consul-imposed restrictions. I apologize, and will not breach this again. This is an appeal for both the block and the editing/user rights restriction. A way I will not breach this again is the '''Global Account Creation Limitation''', which was created to enforce this particular situation. I hope you consider my appeal. Best, {{User:BlackWidowMovie0/signature}} 19:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)|decline={{Not done}} Sorry, given recent events on [[meta:IRC|IRC]] and on-wiki, I'm not satisfied you either (a) ''understand'' the circumstances that led to your block and (b) how you will ''prevent'' recurrence. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)}}
-:Hi BrandonWM,
-:Per my [[Special:Redirect/logid/23905|comments here]], given the significant passage of time, I'm willing to extend and assume [[w:WP:AGF|good faith]] here that with that passage of time, there comes with it greater maturity and competency. As a reminder, your TestWiki [[TestWiki:Editing restrictions|editing restriction]], outlined [[Special:Diff/32172#TestWiki editing restriction|here]] remains in place, minus, of course, the prohibition on waiting thirty (30) days before requesting <code>[[TestWiki:Administrators|sysop]]</code>, since it's been well past thirty days since the restriction was imposed. Your acknowledgement, by way of a reply, would be appreciated. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 04:50, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
-::{{u|Dmehus}}, Thanks for unblocking me. I completely accept the terms that come with the unblock. However I will note that you might want to update the editing restrictions page, as it seems to be long outdated. Thank you again. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BlackWidowMovie0|contribs]]) 15:22, 21 June 2022 (UTC)