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Greetings BrandomWM, congrats on being elected as a consul and I hope you prove your worthiness :) Harvici (talk) 15:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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 '''Attention:''' I prefer to keep discussions unfragmented. If you leave a comment for me here, I will most likely respond to it on this same page—''my talk page''—as an effort to keep the entire conversation in one place. By the same token, if ''I'' leave a comment on ''your talk page'', please respond to it ''there''. Remember, we can use our [[special:watchlist|watchlist]] to keep track of when responses are made. At the same time, feel free to send an alert to me on this page about a comment you have left elsewhere. And again, please do not delete discussions of my talk page, it is my own decision. <!-----Per WP:OWNTALK-----> Thanks!</div>
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-== TestWiki editing restriction ==
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-:The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
-::Archived discussion. {{User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature}} 21:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
-Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,
-Though TestWiki prides itself on having few official [[TestWiki:Policies|rules]], we ''do'' nonetheless have to have some policies together with [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]] and established customs and conventions, and it's not clear from your recent edits and log actions that you've read some or all of them. I ''do'' appreciate that TestWiki's ''lack of rules'' and increased reliance on established customs and conventions and a healthy dose of common sense ''can'' be difficult for new users to comprehend or become accustomed to. And, to be clear, you've had several constructive and potentially useful contributions, notably the creation of the potentially useful [[TestWiki]] redirect to [[Main Page]] when linking to TestWiki's main page in an [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki]] wikilink without having to use a [[w:Help:Pipe trick|pipe trick]] and your creation of [[Template:Administrator]]. Having said that, your testing on [[TestWiki:Community portal]] with a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]]-only template, as you did [[Special:Diff/31355|here]], and your [[Special:UserRights/BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|edit warring]] with a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] by repeatedly re-adding redundant user groups without ''asking'' for permission to have the arguably unnecessary duplicative user groups and, equally crucially, ''explaining'' your valid reason(s) for wanting to have these extra user groups are the most problematic.
-As such, as a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] action, with the agreement of my fellow [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] {{ping|RhinosF1|Reception123}}, I am imposing a TestWiki [[TestWiki:Editing restrictions|editing restriction]] prohibiting you from rerequesting rights for '''at least thirty (30) calendar days''' (inclusive of ''today''). When you rerequest rights, only a [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] may grant rights, and you will be required to complete and pass a short five question quiz that will be based on any of our [[TestWiki:Policies|official policies]], with possibly one question based on [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]]. To pass the quiz, you must pass with a score of 80% or better. There is no limit to the number of times you may rewrite the quiz, though the questions will be neither difficult or particularly challenging.
-To log this restriction, you will note a short one second log entry in your [[Special:Log/rights|user rights log]]. Additionally, it will also be logged at [[TestWiki:Editing restrictions]], and I may reduce your 1 day block, again with the consent of the imposing Consul.
-Cheers,
-<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Dmehus}} I thought I was allowed to get the rights back after the one-day block? Also, how do I log stuff in my user rights log? [[User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|talk]]) 22:21, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} You ''were'' as part of the interim measures put in place. However, following discussions with Reception123 and RhinosF1, it was agreed that a longer period before requesting rights again, together with your completion of a Consul-prepared quiz, was the right approach. As to logging actions in one's user rights log, it's essentially like a [[w:WP:DUMMY|dummy edit]] whereby one adds a mostly useless user group for a short period (i.e., 1 second), and then annotates their reason with that very short user group grant. Hope that helps. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:26, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-:::{{ping|Dmehus}} Is there a possibility that the 30 days gets cut down to maybe, 14? Also, I don't think I have the ability to add user rights to myself. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|talk]]) 22:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} I'll consider it, but I ''do'' have a number of other things I need to get accomplished over the next several weeks, so will have very limited time, both in drafting your required [[TestWiki:Policies]] quiz and with your [[meta:Meta:Wiki creators|wiki creator]] mentorship. As a [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]] on TestWiki, you had the ability to grant ''all'' local user rights, except for [[TestWiki:Consuls|consul]] (obviously), permanent [[TestWiki:Bots|bot]] accounts, and [[TestWiki:Rightsbot|rightsbot]]. Additionally, of course, you are not able to grant local [[meta:Interwiki administrators|interwiki administrator]] as that is only granted by a [[meta:Stewards|steward]] when certain requirements are met. I'll do my very best to try and shorten it to 2-3 weeks, but, as it stands, it will stay at thirty (30) calendar days until and if I am able to shorten it. How does that sound? [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-:::::{{ping|Dmehus}} Sounds great, thanks! I'm also going to try and draft the rest of the User templates when the block expires, I was thinking the ''Category:User templates'' for the template and ''Category:TestWiki Users'' for the places where the template is placed. The current templates I will make are: '''User, Admin <small>(already created)</small>, Bureaucrat, Consul, Autoconfirmed, Testgroup, and tor users.''' Any I should add or delete? Also, is there a way for me to make a global signature? [[User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|talk]]) 23:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-::::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} Okay, great. No objection to those templates. That'd be great. Hold off on adding categories or coding categories into the templates, though, as I'm not settled on the naming convention for the userspace categories get, nor am I settled on [http://www.itsmarc.com/crs/mergedProjects/subjhead/subjhead/3_5_lcsh.htm direct versus indirect form of entry] when categorizing our pages topically. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-::::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} Regarding your supplementary question added during the edit conflict, unfortunately, it looks like one's signature can only be set in [[Special:Preferences]], not [[Special:GlobalPreferences]]. So, you'll have to copy and paste your signature wikitext coding from one wiki onto every wiki's [[Special:Preferences]] page. Note that I ''do'' use <code><nowiki>[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]]</nowiki></code> to link to my Meta profile page on all non-Meta wikis, and I further link to my local wiki user talk page as <code><nowiki>([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]])</nowiki></code>. Hope that helps. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:24, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} I'll hold off on adding categories for now, ok. And I will have to add the sigs on every wiki individually is fine, I guess. An issue is I can't edit my subpages <code><nowiki>{{USERNAME}}</nowiki>/signature</code>, until my block expires tomorrow at 1:17pm PDT. <div style="white-space:nowrap;display:inline-block;margin-left:1em;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,'Myriad Pro',Myriad,sans-serif;font-size:90%;text-decoration:none"><span style="display:none">—［&nbsp;</span>'''[[User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|<span style="font-weight:800; padding:0.25em 0.5em;border-radius:.35em;background-color:#d2527f;background:background-image: linear-gradient(45deg,gold,black,silver,blue,darkred); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(45deg,gold,black,silver,blue,darkred); background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(45deg,gold,black,silver,blue,darkred); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(45deg,gold,black,silver,blue,darkred); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(45deg,gold,black,silver,blue,darkred); background-image: -khtml-linear-gradient(45deg,gold,black,silver,blue,darkred);color:rgba(255,255,255,1);text-shadow:0 1px 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)">BlackWidowMovie0000Editor</span>]]'''&nbsp;<span style="display:none">］［</span>&nbsp;<span style="padding:0.25em 0.5em;border-radius:.35em;background-color: #ecf0f1;color: #2c3e50">[[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|<span style="color:#2c3e50">Talk</span>]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|<span style="color:#2c3e50">Contributions</span>]]<!--&nbsp;[[Special:CentralAuth/BlackWidowMovie0000Editor|<small style="color:#2c3e50">(Global)</small>]]-->&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[meta:User:BlackWidowMovie0000/Guestbook|<span style="color:#2c3e50">Guestbook</span>]]</div> 23:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} Well, I mean you ''could'' use [[mw:Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding#How to use scary transclusion]], though currently the global [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki]] table prefix for <code>meta</code> doesn't have the <code>transclude</code> flag enabled, so you'd have to locate your signature file as a subpage of your [[templatewiki:Miraheze Template Wiki|Miraheze Template Wiki]] userspace. As well, since your signature has parameters and switches, it's not clear this would even ''work'' as desired. Finally, even if you can overcome both of those hurdles, you'd still have to contend with some wikis not having enabled scary transclusion in [[Special:ManageWiki|ManageWiki]], so on second thought, yeah, it's best just to have local signatures. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} Regarding your added question in the edit conflict, unfortunately, you will have to wait until tomorrow as my [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] colleague {{ping|RhinosF1}} that I ''not'' shorten your already short block length. I'm sure you can work on your wiki(s) until tomorrow. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:06, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
-::::::::::{{ping|Dmehus}} I can totally edit my wiki pages until tomorrow. Also, I'm not gonna try and use the widget because I don't really have time for it right now, so yeah. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor]] 00:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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-:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section </div>
-== Unblock ==
-{{Unblock reviewed|1=[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] I used an extension that was already there. It wasn't exploiting as it was enabled and no one had told me not to use it.|accept = Appeal accepted, subject to the following conditions articulated in [[Special:Diff/32163|this indefinite TestWiki editing restriction]], which replaced the [[Special:Diff/31359|previous, temporary TestWiki editing restriction]]. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)}}
-:What about the competency concerns expressed earlier? --[[User:Cactus754|Cactus754]] ([[User talk:Cactus754|talk]]) 21:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-:{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} Regarding your TestWiki unblock, this a little more problematic than I'd realized. For one thing, another [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] in {{ping|NDKilla}} has endorsed {{ping|Zppix}}' block as valid. So, it would be inappropriate for me to remove your block at this time. That's not to say this indefinite block is ''permanent'', but you need to propose a solution that would address your tendency to ''act'' before [[w:WP:CIR|fully understanding]] our policies, customs, and best practicies. Also, you have also mischaracterized what I said when you spoke to {{ping|Naleksuh}} by saying I said you could delete those templates. I have located our direct message conversation on [[meta:Discord|Discord]], to which you asked, "And, can I get rid of {{tl|admin}}?" I responded, "Yes, please. '''I'll delete it for you.'''" ('''''emphasis added'''''). So, not only did I ''not'' say that you could delete ''all'' of the templates; I specifically said I would do it for you, yet you exploited [[mw:Extension:DeleteUserPages|the DeleteUserPages]] extension, which has forced its disabling for everyone. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-::{{ping|BlackWidowMovie0000Editor}} A proposed remedy that would see your block conditionally lifted and replaced with a modified, and indefinite, editing restriction (sometimes called a "topic ban") has the support of {{ping|Zppix}}, myself, and, broadly speaking, {{ping|Reception123}}. We're just awaiting on the opinions of the remaining [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]]. Assuming it's not amended, the ''proposed'' editing restriction would consist of the following:
-::# Prohibition on requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
-::# Requirement that you obtain [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] of the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] before requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]];
-::# Prohibition on editing [[TestWiki:Request permissions]], which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
-::# Prohibition on page, redirect, and template [[Special:MovePage|page moves]]; and,
-::# Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] before ''creating'' any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.
-::Additionally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at [[TestWiki:Community portal]] [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-::: I would support an unblock upon agreement of these terms and note that upon violation of them that ''any administrator'' may reimpose the block as-is and it would not be considered a test block. My main concern is that you may potentially not have been "exploiting" as it is by design, moving pages to delete them via the extension seems like a loophole any competent person would have realized should be avoided. [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] ([[User talk:NDKilla|talk]]) 22:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
-== TestWiki editing restriction ==
-{{anchor|Revised TestWiki editing restriction}}
-Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,
-Following discussions with all of the other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]], your [[Special:Diff/31359|existing temporary, thirty (30) calendar editing restriction]] on TestWiki
-has been rescinded and replaced with the following, indefinite editing restriction, which is has you subject to the following prohibitions, restrictions, and/or requirements (collectively, "the conditions"):
-# Prohibition on requesting [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
-# Requirement that you obtain [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] of the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] before requesting [[TestWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]];
-# Prohibition on editing [[TestWiki:Request permissions]], which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
-# Prohibition on page, redirect, and template [[Special:MovePage|page moves]];
-# Prohibition on deleting any page, redirect, or template, which you, ''yourself'', did not create; and,
-# Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] before ''creating'' any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.
-Additionally, if any of these conditions are breached, given the number of cautionary notes and warnings you've had related to your [[w:WP:IDHT|disruptive]], albeit [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], editing, any [[TestWiki:Administrators|administrator]] may reimpose either a sitewide or partial block for any length of time, as {{ping|NDKilla}} articulated above.
-Finally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consuls]] and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at [[TestWiki:Community portal]].
+== Congratulations ==
-Cheers,
-<br />[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
+Greetings BrandomWM, congrats on being elected as a consul and I hope you prove your worthiness :) [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 15:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
-:As a footnote to the above, revised, indefinite TestWiki editing restriction, any [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] approvals for any of the above restrictions '''must''' be provided on-wiki. Similarly, any acceptance of conditions of their providing an approval '''must''' also be done on-wiki. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)