User talk:TrustedInstaller

Rights revoked

Hi TrustedInstaller,

Sadly, I have had to revoke your administrator testing user group right as your first action (aside from a test block of the Google Public DNS server IP address) was to undo @Naleksuh:'s block of a long-term abuse IP address, as you did with this log action.

It will not be reinstated, until you can satisfy, to Naleksuh's and my satisfaction, of your valid reason for unblocking that recently blocked IP address.

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 00:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: Hello, that IP was open on port 8080 proof. http://108.30.102.177:8080 is now closed. Therefore it is impossible for the LTA to connect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrustedInstaller (talk • contribs)

I don't see any evidence that the proxy is closed. Either way, undoing an lta block only four minutes after gaining admin rights is a very bold action. Naleksuh (talk) 01:03, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I have tried to connect and it is indeed closed. TrustedInstaller (talk) 01:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I concur with @Naleksuh: completely. Moreover, as you explained in requesting testing rights, you wanted to test the MediaWiki interface, which this certainly wasn't that. Dmehus (talk) 01:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Alright, sorry. But I can guarantee you there is no open proxy on that IP anymore. TrustedInstaller (talk) 01:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Still, I'm inclined to think it's best for you to take a brief pause before rerequesting administrator rights (at least two weeks). Dmehus (talk) 01:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

It was blocked for long term abuse, not blocked solely for being a proxy and nothing else, meaning that unblocking for the proxy being closed is not okay. I would be willing to re-grant administrator in two weeks per rope as long as it is used properly this time, but would avoid granting bureaucrat for a while. Naleksuh (talk) 01:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Alright. Re request in 2 weeks. TrustedInstaller (talk) 01:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Concur completely. Bureaucrat should require a Consul to grant, given the level of trust required for that role. @TrustedInstaller:, you can re-apply at TestWiki:Request permissions for administrator on or after 20 August 2020. Dmehus (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I've just seen this and TI is right here. A 6 month block would not have been appropriate had it not been an open proxy. That situation does seem to be resolved bar some blacklists caching it. Revoking sysop rights for unblocking someone when the situation is resolved is not an appropriate reason to revoke. If TrustedInstaller wishes to gain his rights back, I see no reason why not. The only thing I'm wondering is how he knew to go straight for that block to remove. RhinosF1 (talk) 07:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

To add to my discussion on Discord, my reason for revoking the rights wasn't simply because TrustedInstaller unblocked an IP address, but it was the fact that he focused on that particular IP address used, presumably, by an LTA that Naleksuh monitors over on the Wikimedia projects or other wikis. Perhaps I should've questioned the original block of the IP, but it seemed consistent the block length used by stewards when blocking anonymous users for LTA and related issues, so simply opted to defer to you on that when you reviewed the block logs for TestWiki. Because of that, I was concerned that TrustedInstaller may continue with unblocking further LTAs, so removed the rights, at least in the short-term, in order for the user to provide a satisfactory explanation for the removal of that block and also why one of the user's first actions was to unblock that IP address, which didn't jive with the reason for requesting rights (i.e., "to test the MediaWiki interface") at TestWiki:Request permissions. I agree, though, I should've been more direct with TrustedInstaller in my concerns. In fairness, I did hesitate on placing a two-week moratorium for re-requesting administrator, but since you're satisfied, I see no problem with TrustedInstaller re-requesting that right immediately, with either a strong recommendation that they test the other administrator tools (since they seem to be familiar with blocking/unblocking IP addresses). Dmehus (talk) 14:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)