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About this board

I am a consul, who also holds the bureaucrat and administrator bits, on Public Test Wiki.

If you:

  • Have a question, please start a new thread
  • Want administrator or other user rights, request it here or at RfP
  • Want bureaucrat permissions, ideally, request it at RfP, but you can also request it here so long as you are familiar with the granting guidelines
  • Have come here because I left you a message on your user talk page or elsewhere, please reply on that page and {{ping}} me so I am aware that you have replied, in order to keep the discussions together

In all cases, please remember to assume good faith

Synoman Barris (talkcontribs)

Hello Dmehus, I am back, so I am kindly requesting if I can get my admin and craft bits back.Thank you

Synoman Barris (talkcontribs)

Is open proxies allowed on this wiki or should they get blocked? I wanted to create a system where all open proxies are blocked automatically if that’s right. Best regards

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

Hi @Synoman Barris:, welcome back, and I see that you have made the WikiJunior Books wiki, which sounds interesting. no open proxies is indeed a global policy that applies to all wikis, and we have a proxy bot that automatically blocks open proxies upon discovery. Stewards and Global Sysops also routinely block them on discovery. As well, we also have the TorBlock extension that blocks Tor exit nodes. That being said, if you have trusted users who wish to login and use either Tor for privacy reasons or other state-imposed limitations, then you can either whitelist, locally, certain globally blocked IP addresses, or create a local ipblock-exempt and/or torunblocked user group. If they are trusted Mirahezians, they can also request a global IP block exemption. Anyway, that's probably a somewhat longer answer to your question, some of which you may not have needed, but hope that clarifies.

Synoman Barris (talkcontribs)

Quick question, since I plan on staying and visiting here once in a while, is there any maintenance task I may be of help in here. Best regards

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

Hi @Synoman Barris:...apologies for the delayed reply. I'd like to eventually work on our categorization system on Public Test Wiki, but haven't completely settled on the taxonomy for classifying pages and whether direct versus indirect form of classification is preferable. However, if you're so inclined, you could, perhaps, go through Template: namespace, looking for out of scope templates with no or very few transclusions and which seem to have no real logical use on Public Test Wiki. Note that some templates which are supposed to be substituted may have zero transclusions, so you'll want to check for that, and will also want to remove any existing template protection prior to deletion. Other than that, I can't really think of any other near-term maintenance-related tasks that either I or @Naleksuh: haven't already done. Thanks for wanting to volunteer, though! :)

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

Hi again @Synoman Barris:...I've re-added the bits, as you requested, and realized I may have misread your question. What idea did you have in mind locally for TestWiki in terms of a system? I think we generally do pretty well with the global administration of the no open proxies policy, whether bot- or human-initiated blocking of open web proxy IP addresses, so am not sure what more we need to do locally, but would be curious to know what you had in mind that we could do locally. Regarding torunblocked, though, interestingly, in your absence, that user right was previously included to all registered, logged in users. Following a successful community proposal at TestWiki:Community portal, though, that is now restricted to either (a) bureaucrats (or above) and (b) trusted Tor users, which may be granted by either bureaucrats or consuls on a discretionary basis. I'm still working on finalizing some suggested guidelines for granting, but I'm thinking we may want to require a confirmation edit on a Wikimedia wiki user account in good standing in existence for at least six months. What do you think?

Synoman Barris (talkcontribs)

Not a bad idea, actually if their is a bot handling the blocking of open proxies that’s cool,so their is no need since it may bring overlap. I have also been trying to create my Wiki alone but it has really been tedious but I’ll manage (It will take months before I complete everything). Best regards

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

There isn't any bot blocking open proxies here at this time, however TOR exit nodes are unable to edit via an extension.

What is the problem with creating your wiki?

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Summary by Dmehus

My StructuredDiscussions board's description has now been updated, with thanks to trusted bureaucrat @Naleksuh: for the reminder to update this.

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

Are you going to update the description?

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

@Naleksuh: Oh, for my user talk page? You're right, I probably should do that. Hey, I noticed you inadvertently reopened and then resolved again that "Question on Meta Wiki" topic. I'm thinking you probably assumed one had to reopen a resolved topic in order to view the comments contained therein?

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

Yep that's pretty much what happened, I see you have me all figured out. But I did figured out that you can click on the topic titles to read the contents. :)

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

@Naleksuh: Yeah, exactly, I think I did the same, too, originally, thinking I had to unresolve a topic to view its contents. Oh well, that's the purpose of the test wiki. :P

Summary by Dmehus

A likely LTA questioning their soft block on Meta. When questioned, they have not been able to refute my suspicions.

2600:1700:2F00:3830:3D15:B70F:2927:B3FE (talkcontribs)

I'm not an LTA, I'm just adding some info on your page you created, and I tried to move it to a project page, but I got blocked for "vandalism". Can I get unblocked?

Dmehus (talkcontribs)
Dmehus (talkcontribs)

In addition, I feel it is better to soft block your IP address on Public Test Wiki as well, unless you can satisfy me why you are not a likely long-term abuse (adding a ToU-banned user to Missing Mirahezians on Meta as your first contribution is not helpful for your case). As I say, you are welcome to login with an existing account.

Summary by Dmehus

Test done. LGTM.

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

This is only a test thread for testing purposes.

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

 Test done.

Removed admin and crat

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Summary by Dmehus

Synoman Barris, in good-faith notifying me of their absence from Public Test Wiki and voluntarily surrendering the bits. These can be rerequested, as always, via my user talk page or at TestWiki:Request permissions.

Synoman Barris (talkcontribs)

Hello, I just removed myself from the admin and crat bit since I am going for a wiki break and I don’t want my account compromised. I will request them back if I come back after a few days. Regards

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the note. For a few days, that's absolutely fine to just leave those on your account, but it is also fine to remove them, if you prefer.

Summary by Dmehus

IRCCloud is preferred by the participants over HexChat.

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

Considered joining the irc channel? Is useful for casual conversations and quick notes to other members here. Entirely optional, no obligation is necessary!

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

@Naleksuh: Yeah, I am on IRC, but haven't used it of late as I'm not loving the Freenode web chat interface. I did finally get a Miraheze cloak (from John). Deciding whether I want to use IRCCloud or HexChat. What do you prefer?

Naleksuh (talkcontribs)

Funny that you specifically asked me to choose between those two. I used hexchat for about three years but switched to irccloud just a couple weeks ago.

I would say go with irccloud as there has been few problems so far and you can use it from multiple devices and such.

Channel is #miraheze-testwiki if you want to visit :)

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

Okay, IRCCloud it is. Thanks!

Summary by Dmehus

A new administrator was wondering whether they needed translation administrator privileges to access the translation system, as is common on most other wikis. In short, since administrator is so easy to obtain on Public Test Wiki, we don't have a separate translation administrator user group. Special:PagePreparation and Special:PageTranslation are the primary access points to the translation system, with deletion of translated subpages preferred to removing pages from the translation system.

Path slopu 102 (talkcontribs)

Hi greetings, I would like to test TA in this wiki. Would you mind giving me the permission to use TA toolkit? Regards.--Path slopu 102 (talk) 16:04, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

@Path slopu 102: On some wikis, the translation administrator is a separate user group; on TestWiki, since anyone can request administrator and is such an easy user group to obtain, you should have full access to the translation system. Let me know if you have any questions. Special:PagePreparation is used to prepare any page for translation, then Special:PageTranslation is used to mark a page for translation. Generally, removing a page from the translation system, if it's already been translated, is discouraged, and the usual practice is to delete the translated subpages (handled by FuzzyBot, which runs on the Miraheze jobrunner server with (usually) only a modest delay).

Path slopu 102 (talkcontribs)

Thank you for the help.

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

@Path slopu 102: No problem. Feel free to start a new thread if you have any other questions.

Summary by Dmehus

New user learning with regard to our policies and general best practices; seems to be resolved.

Eugene Friedriechsen (talkcontribs)

Hello! I previously blocked your account for testing. I thought it was OK (it was set to expire in 2 hours), but another user reverted me and said it was not, because I did not inform you. If I caused something unneeded, I apologize. Best regards, Eugene Friedriechsen (talk)

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

No worries. @Naleksuh: quickly undid the block, and gently guided you as to our best practices. There is really little one can do wrong here, as most actions are not mistakes but learning experiences. Looking through your tests, the only log action that was not noted as a test that I would personally like to see you undo is your protecting Sandbox. Somewhat infrequently, though not uncommonly, users are guided to our community sandbox who are not administrators. My preference would be for that page to be unprotected, but if you feel that only logged-in editors should edit that page, I could support that, albeit weakly (as sometimes it's necessary to test scripts and templates according to various user groups).

Eugene Friedriechsen (talkcontribs)

I had protected that sandbox for testing, I now know that it is also not ok. I should have marked it as testing, something I did not. I did not wanted to change the policies about it, as IPs also shall test it for some things. Nvm, I promise that, from now on, I will mark all tests as such. ~~~~

Dmehus (talkcontribs)

No worries; I didn't want to undo your protection without discussing with you first whether it was a test protection or a non-test protection. That's one of the reasons why it's helpful to mark your test actions, so other administrators know what can be easily undone without worry about wheel-warring. As I say, though, no worries on that either, and welcome.

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