User talk:BrandonWM

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Unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

BrandonWM (block log • active blocks • central auth (for registered users) • global blocks (for IP users) • contribs • deleted contribs • change block settings • unblock • filter log)

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Request reason:

Dmehus I used an extension that was already there. It wasn't exploiting as it was enabled and no one had told me not to use it.

Accept reason:

Appeal accepted, subject to the following conditions articulated in this indefinite TestWiki editing restriction, which replaced the previous, temporary TestWiki editing restriction. Dmehus (talk) 23:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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What about the competency concerns expressed earlier? --Cactus754 (talk) 21:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: Regarding your TestWiki unblock, this a little more problematic than I'd realized. For one thing, another Consul in @NDKilla: has endorsed @Zppix:' block as valid. So, it would be inappropriate for me to remove your block at this time. That's not to say this indefinite block is permanent, but you need to propose a solution that would address your tendency to act before fully understanding our policies, customs, and best practicies. Also, you have also mischaracterized what I said when you spoke to @Naleksuh: by saying I said you could delete those templates. I have located our direct message conversation on Discord, to which you asked, "And, can I get rid of {{admin}}?" I responded, "Yes, please. I'll delete it for you." (emphasis added). So, not only did I not say that you could delete all of the templates; I specifically said I would do it for you, yet you exploited the DeleteUserPages extension, which has forced its disabling for everyone. Dmehus (talk) 21:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: A proposed remedy that would see your block conditionally lifted and replaced with a modified, and indefinite, editing restriction (sometimes called a "topic ban") has the support of @Zppix:, myself, and, broadly speaking, @Reception123:. We're just awaiting on the opinions of the remaining Consuls. Assuming it's not amended, the proposed editing restriction would consist of the following:

1. Prohibition on requesting administrator for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
2. Requirement that you obtain consensus of the Consuls before requesting bureaucrat;
3. Prohibition on editing TestWiki:Request permissions, which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
4. Prohibition on page, redirect, and template page moves; and,
5. Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other Consul before creating any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.

Additionally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the Consuls and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at TestWiki:Community portal Dmehus (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

I would support an unblock upon agreement of these terms and note that upon violation of them that any administrator may reimpose the block as-is and it would not be considered a test block. My main concern is that you may potentially not have been "exploiting" as it is by design, moving pages to delete them via the extension seems like a loophole any competent person would have realized should be avoided. NDKilla (talk) 22:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@NDKilla: Really nice jab at my competency there, by the way, that really warms my heart. As for @Dmehus:, #1, Sure, #2, agree, #3, how do I request admin without editing there, and can I approve requests for permissions on it if I'm a bureaucrat? Also, when does that expire? #4, How long? #5, sure. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 17:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

See my reply to these questions in the below section. Dmehus (talk) 00:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

TestWiki editing restriction

Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,

Following discussions with all of the other Consuls, your existing temporary, thirty (30) calendar editing restriction on TestWiki has been rescinded and replaced with the following, indefinite editing restriction, which is has you subject to the following prohibitions, restrictions, and/or requirements (collectively, "the conditions"):

1. Prohibition on requesting administrator for thirty (30) calendar days from the date of imposition;
2. Requirement that you obtain consensus of the Consuls before requesting bureaucrat;
3. Prohibition on editing TestWiki:Request permissions, which may be imposed by a partial block if breached;
4. Prohibition on page, redirect, and template page moves;
5. Prohibition on deleting any page, redirect, or template, which you, yourself, did not create; and,
6. Requirement to obtain the approval of at least one (1) other Consul before creating any pages, redirects, or templates on TestWiki, not counting subpages in your userspace.

Additionally, if any of these conditions are breached, given the number of cautionary notes and warnings you've had related to your disruptive, albeit good-faith, editing, any administrator may reimpose either a sitewide or partial block for any length of time, as @NDKilla: articulated above.

Finally, if, after a reasonable period of time, you wish to appeal the the editing restriction, you may first appeal it on your talk page to the Consuls and, if that is unsuccessful, you may appeal your restriction at TestWiki:Community portal.

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 23:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

As a footnote to the above, revised, indefinite TestWiki editing restriction, any Consul approvals for any of the above restrictions must be provided on-wiki. Similarly, any acceptance of conditions of their providing an approval must also be done on-wiki. Dmehus (talk) 23:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: So, 1 month from the OG restriction? User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 17:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

#1 lasts for 1 month, yes. #2-6 are indefinite, but can be appealed to the Consuls after a reasonable period of time (likely several months, to be perfectly honest). No fixed time limit on when you can ask the Consuls on #2, but I would suggest at least a month after #1 expires. Dmehus (talk) 19:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: So basically Nov. 26. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 20:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: For requesting administrator, yes, that's correct. For requesting bureaucrat, I recommend waiting until at least 26 December 2020 before asking for Consul consensus. Nevertheless, we have another matter to discuss, and that is your breach of your editing restriction (criterion # 4) in this log action. While it was good-faith in that I don't personally see a point to that sub-stub page that repeats an established global policy. It would've been fine for you to suggest deletion or other action, but your moving the page to @Cactus754:'s userspace was problematic. Care to explain? Dmehus (talk) 00:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: Yes. I moved the page to Cactus754 because he was the only editor for the page, having 3 revisions, all of them his. I left a message on his talk page as well, to notify him. See the message at User talk:Cactus754#Sock puppetry. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 00:11, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

While I personally agree with this decision, your doing that was in breach of your editing restriction here on TestWiki, which was put in place as you have a habit of jumping in too quickly before fully understanding our policies and practices. I will discuss with Cactus754 their creation of that page separately. What concerns me is your ability, or inability, to abide by a current, in-force editing restriction on TestWiki. Dmehus (talk) 00:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: I'll try and remember next time. Sorry. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 00:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: Okay, thank you. Please do more than try—you should focus incredibly hard at not doing that. Too many contraventions of your editing restriction, especially in a short period of time, would likely result in a sitewide block being reinstated, at least temporarily. I really don't want to see that happen. If you it difficult to govern yourself, I would suggest either (a) focusing on your Marvel Cinematic Universe wiki (ideally) or (b) taping your editing restriction to your monitor. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: Taped. LOL. I am gonna focus on my wiki, I'm just kinda busy. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 00:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

 Great! Dmehus (talk) 00:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: I would really, really, REALLY, like to be a Consul one day, though. You think it's possible in Feb-April 2021? User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 00:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, for starters, we have historically only added 1-2 Consuls per year, as we really do have a small community, which is smaller than it was even last year, largely. So it becomes an issue, firstly, based on need, but then we need to assess not just the quantity but the quality of one's contributions. I wouldn't suggest it's impossible or anything, but would rather see you focusing on becoming a productive bureaucrat again. Consuls can't really do that much more than bureaucrats, other than use ManageWiki and edit Consul-protected pages. Dmehus (talk) 00:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: Okay. I'll try and help with admin once I get it. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 00:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I was under the impression that his topic ban only applied to articles, redirects, and templates. Does that count as an article although it is not in mainspace? Naleksuh (talk) 05:41, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Naleksuh: The editing restriction/topic ban applies to pages, redirects, and templates. We don't have articles, per se, on TestWiki. It is not limited by namespace. Hope that clarifies. Dmehus (talk) 15:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020

You have been temporarily blocked from editing as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make non-destructive tests after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism, spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks, legal threats; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies will not be tolerated. You can request an unblock by placing {{Unblock|reason}} on your talkpage. Any patrolling Consul will shortly get to you.

Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,

This is very difficult for me to do, so with immense regrets, I have had no choice but to indefinitely block this account on TestWiki following your material breaches of user accounts policy in your requesting rights as SCVSlalom, despite your having been indefinitely restricted from requesting rights on this wiki per the above warnings.

You may appeal this no sooner than standard offer of six months (inclusive of today).

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 02:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)