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TestWiki editing restriction

Latest comment: 3 years ago11 comments2 people in discussion

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Archived discussion. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 21:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,

Though TestWiki prides itself on having few official rules, we do nonetheless have to have some policies together with common sense and established customs and conventions, and it's not clear from your recent edits and log actions that you've read some or all of them. I do appreciate that TestWiki's lack of rules and increased reliance on established customs and conventions and a healthy dose of common sense can be difficult for new users to comprehend or become accustomed to. And, to be clear, you've had several constructive and potentially useful contributions, notably the creation of the potentially useful TestWiki redirect to Main Page when linking to TestWiki's main page in an interwiki wikilink without having to use a pipe trick and your creation of Template:Administrator. Having said that, your testing on TestWiki:Community portal with a Consul-only template, as you did here, and your edit warring with a Consul by repeatedly re-adding redundant user groups without asking for permission to have the arguably unnecessary duplicative user groups and, equally crucially, explaining your valid reason(s) for wanting to have these extra user groups are the most problematic.

As such, as a Consul action, with the agreement of my fellow Consuls @RhinosF1 and Reception123:, I am imposing a TestWiki editing restriction prohibiting you from rerequesting rights for at least thirty (30) calendar days (inclusive of today). When you rerequest rights, only a Consul may grant rights, and you will be required to complete and pass a short five question quiz that will be based on any of our official policies, with possibly one question based on common sense. To pass the quiz, you must pass with a score of 80% or better. There is no limit to the number of times you may rewrite the quiz, though the questions will be neither difficult or particularly challenging.

To log this restriction, you will note a short one second log entry in your user rights log. Additionally, it will also be logged at TestWiki:Editing restrictions, and I may reduce your 1 day block, again with the consent of the imposing Consul.

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 21:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dmehus: I thought I was allowed to get the rights back after the one-day block? Also, how do I log stuff in my user rights log? BlackWidowMovie0000Editor (talk) 22:21, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: You were as part of the interim measures put in place. However, following discussions with Reception123 and RhinosF1, it was agreed that a longer period before requesting rights again, together with your completion of a Consul-prepared quiz, was the right approach. As to logging actions in one's user rights log, it's essentially like a dummy edit whereby one adds a mostly useless user group for a short period (i.e., 1 second), and then annotates their reason with that very short user group grant. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:26, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dmehus: Is there a possibility that the 30 days gets cut down to maybe, 14? Also, I don't think I have the ability to add user rights to myself. BlackWidowMovie0000Editor (talk) 22:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: I'll consider it, but I do have a number of other things I need to get accomplished over the next several weeks, so will have very limited time, both in drafting your required TestWiki:Policies quiz and with your wiki creator mentorship. As a bureaucrat on TestWiki, you had the ability to grant all local user rights, except for consul (obviously), permanent bot accounts, and rightsbot. Additionally, of course, you are not able to grant local interwiki administrator as that is only granted by a steward when certain requirements are met. I'll do my very best to try and shorten it to 2-3 weeks, but, as it stands, it will stay at thirty (30) calendar days until and if I am able to shorten it. How does that sound? Dmehus (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dmehus: Sounds great, thanks! I'm also going to try and draft the rest of the User templates when the block expires, I was thinking the Category:User templates for the template and Category:TestWiki Users for the places where the template is placed. The current templates I will make are: User, Admin (already created), Bureaucrat, Consul, Autoconfirmed, Testgroup, and tor users. Any I should add or delete? Also, is there a way for me to make a global signature? BlackWidowMovie0000Editor (talk) 23:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: Okay, great. No objection to those templates. That'd be great. Hold off on adding categories or coding categories into the templates, though, as I'm not settled on the naming convention for the userspace categories get, nor am I settled on direct versus indirect form of entry when categorizing our pages topically. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: Regarding your supplementary question added during the edit conflict, unfortunately, it looks like one's signature can only be set in Special:Preferences, not Special:GlobalPreferences. So, you'll have to copy and paste your signature wikitext coding from one wiki onto every wiki's Special:Preferences page. Note that I do use [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] to link to my Meta profile page on all non-Meta wikis, and I further link to my local wiki user talk page as ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:24, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dmehus: I'll hold off on adding categories for now, ok. And I will have to add the sigs on every wiki individually is fine, I guess. An issue is I can't edit my subpages {{USERNAME}}/signature, until my block expires tomorrow at 1:17pm PDT.

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23:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: Well, I mean you could use mw:Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding#How to use scary transclusion, though currently the global interwiki table prefix for meta doesn't have the transclude flag enabled, so you'd have to locate your signature file as a subpage of your Miraheze Template Wiki userspace. As well, since your signature has parameters and switches, it's not clear this would even work as desired. Finally, even if you can overcome both of those hurdles, you'd still have to contend with some wikis not having enabled scary transclusion in ManageWiki, so on second thought, yeah, it's best just to have local signatures. Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: Regarding your added question in the edit conflict, unfortunately, you will have to wait until tomorrow as my Consul colleague @RhinosF1: that I not shorten your already short block length. I'm sure you can work on your wiki(s) until tomorrow. Dmehus (talk) 00:06, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dmehus: I can totally edit my wiki pages until tomorrow. Also, I'm not gonna try and use the widget because I don't really have time for it right now, so yeah. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor 00:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Conversation about Block with Naleksuh

Latest comment: 3 years ago15 comments3 people in discussion

@Naleksuh: Could we talk? User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 20:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, at the moment we have no plans to remove the block, As it's not even been a day yet its too early for your block to be reconsidered I would suggest waiting a few weeks then attempt to appeal as the block is recent if you have any questions let me know --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:00, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BlackWidowMovie0000Editor: What would you like to talk about? Naleksuh (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Naleksuh I'm pretty sure it's about his block since the header says blocked --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also, despite Cocopuff2018's comment that "we have no plans to remove the block", I would like to say that I am aware of two consuls that are in favor of an unblock, although that would not guarantee an unblock as it is a very split issue. I would like to hear what BlackWidowMovie0000Editor has to say about the block before discussing unblocking furthur. Naleksuh (talk) 21:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Naleksuh: I'd like to ask about the block. I have noticed that you have blocked 2 users (1 is myself) for an indefinite amount of time without first consulting the consuls. While you are a bureaucrat here, yes, the TestWiki allows anyone to become a bureaucrat if they have been an admin for 24 hours and made 10 edits. The consuls are generally the ones who block users from the wiki because if anyone could become a bureaucrat and then block, it would be a complete mess.. To this point, I am requesting you lift the block on me and leave it to a consul to block if needed. Hope you don't take this the wrong way, just wanted to make you aware of that situation. I do recommend that if you wish to have those powers though, make a request at TW:CP, I would totally be in favor of a promotion to Consul. Thanks! User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 21:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

i do not trust you with consul and you have been blocked 2 times in the last few day, and due to it i think in my own opinion the block should remain for now i will go see what the consuls think of your block being removed --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I’d like to add he did consult consuls, he consulted both me and doug before blocking. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 21:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Zppix: I had Doug's permission to delete the article before moving and then subsequently deleting Template:Admin. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 21:36, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

It was decided that since you exploited an ext to delete pages you did not create you would be blocked. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 21:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

if you were given permission to do so Dough would of said something, nor did you mention this before its sounds to me like your making up lies. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Discord @Cocopuff2018: User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 21:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

He Only gave you permission to delete template:admin from the evidence --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC) Um, yes, that's the point. User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 21:45, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you deleted more then that. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 21:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have talked with Dmehus and it appears that he gave BlackWidow permission to create new templates, and Dmehus said that he would delete Template:Admin, and that he did not at any point agree to you deleting it. Especially not by exploiting userspace deletion. Naleksuh (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Let me contact Dmehus and figure this out. <sigh> User:BlackWidowMovie0000Editor/signature 21:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

its confirmed you exploited Templates, Honestly I do wonder why we ever trusted him with crate in the first place honestly there is enough evidence and proof to Say his block should remain in my own opinion, and as i said before we have no plans to remove your block at this time. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal denied by RhinosF1 and myself. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 21:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]