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== Requests for Comment == |
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Hi everyone. Due to the recent influx of Requests for Comment here on TestWiki, I have created a separate page for them at [[TestWiki:Requests for Comment]]. I have also moved two RfCs from here to there. You are all invited to comment on them, they are [[TestWiki:Requests for Comment/Proposals]] (proposed by Naleksuh) and [[TestWiki:Requests for Comment/Amending Consul policy]] (proposed by BrandonWM). Thank you! [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 07:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Proposal : Demo bot proxy blocking on test wiki == |
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: First off, two is not an "influx". Second, you shouldn't have just started moving other people's comments without a discussion or at least a delay. Maybe I'll move your comment to [[Talk:Rollback test]] next? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) |
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::If it were on topic for the page and are more appropriate for there, yes, are they though? No. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Hello. There's currently an actively ongoing request to block many more proxies globally across all of Miraheze, it's supposed to be done already but in practice hasn't been taken care of that well. There's a new system upcoming designed to block more proxies by using Wikimedia's list. I would like to demo this on test wiki given that 1) it is a test wiki after all 2) there is a huge spam problem here. Any objections? Also, thoughts from consuls [[User:Reception123]] [[User:Void]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:03, 29 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:I don’t believe this is a vote, but I would {{support}} this request. We can test this out here, and if it works we can expand to the rest of Miraheze in time. If not, no skin off our backs. I have faith this will work as we haven’t been great about blocking proxies in the past. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 23:48, 29 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:: I would ideally like at least one consul to input before I place 40000+ blocks, that kind of thing is not easy to reverse. (Though they can be short i.e. ~1 week during the trial period, and only longer during longterm use). Any thoughts from uninvolved users so far? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 19:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:{{Oppose|Strong}} I can not support this, a bot like this should ONLY be ran by a user whom has experience with global permissions on Miraheze, for example current or former CVT, Stewards, sysadmins, ect. A bot of this type has severe consequences if it has to many false positives, one that only those people would have experience handling. At this moment, Void has been working on a bot to handle this sort of thing. I have also been doing separate work on reviving Proxybot. This request is a complete no from me, and this vote will not change. Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 20:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:: Void's sources missed proxies, which is why this request was started. There is currently only an import task, which I asked Reception123 to comment on. Also, this isn't a vote, so there's no vote to change. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:58, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Also {{u|Zppix}}, I will note that you don’t have the authority to single-handedly overrule this request. Your comment is noted and has been added to the record, but you cannot overrule this request just because you oppose it. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 22:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::: They actually weren't trying to overrule it, they were just "voting" on a thing that wasn't a vote. Though I do note that they specifically defined experience as "current '''or former''' CVT" so that they would qualify but not me. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 22:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::The reason I specified what I did is because those peoples would have experience with global permissions on Miraheze. Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 22:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Not the only one who doesn’t like this idea, consuls do talk to each other you know. Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 22:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::From a technical perspective it is almost 100% impossible to not miss open proxies. Simply taking WMF’s block list is disruptive, as there are no checks in place to make sure said blocks are still valid. Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 22:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::::The entire point of a test wiki is to test. I wouldn’t be opposed to trying it out and seeing if it works. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 19:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== Consul request == |
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Hello, I am asking if I could become a consul or not because I have done a lot of things. [[User:Cigaryno|Cigaryno]] ([[User talk:Cigaryno|talk]]) 17:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Users can become consul after being elected. Your request however is very early and much more experienced and users who have been here for a long time aren't consuls. There are probably enough consuls right now as well so there's not really a need for any more. I'd advise against hat collecting. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::I will request in 3-6 weeks. [[User:Cigaryno|Cigaryno]] ([[User talk:Cigaryno|talk]]) 19:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::I really wouldn’t recommend that. You’d likely need at least 3-6 months of experience, as well as being an extremely trusted member of the community. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 22:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Either way, as I say there's really no need for other Consuls right now in my opinion. Consul isn't something you set a 'target date' to become. As I say, please do resist the temptation to hat collect. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 13:43, 3 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== Users unblocking themself == |
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Hi all, |
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Recently a user has been evading their topic ban multiple times, without any regard for the seriousness of this and reinforcing why it was made in the first place. I temporarily blocked this user for 3 days, and considered removing their sysop permissions to prevent them from unblocking themself but decided not to because I thought I could trust them not to. |
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Apparently not, because they ended up unblocking themselves. |
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While sysops do have the unblockself permission, my understanding of this is that it is supposed to be because of test blocks by sysops. I certainly don't think it is OK for users to be unblocking themselves as the recipient of actions, and I don't think anyone else would either. |
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It doesn't appear anyone else has commented on this problem, as due to the recent stepping down of the two most active consuls. The only user who had a chance to review this problem only reviewed the technical aspects of it. As a result, I think the community should make a plan on how to handle this situation. |
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Since there isn't an active community at this time, if there are not any objections from anyone (other than BrandonWM themself) I will reinstate the block as an emergency measure. While I was initially under the impression that this would constitute wheel warring, I realized that the policy generally only applies to other sysops reversing actions, and is not intended to apply to users receiving blocks, and this would almost certainly be considered block evasion by any reasonable person. However, I don't have any plans on how to solve this problem long-term, other than either via removing unblockself from sysops (might cause problems for testing blocks?) or a bot that removes them (depending on who blocked). [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 03:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:I suggest that only bureaucrats and consuls have this right. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 18:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:We may create another blocking level rather than current blocks which only available for crat's and consuls. Current blocks may use for testing purposes. —[[User:MdsShakil|MdsShakil]] ([[User talk:MdsShakil|talk]]) 05:16, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::Since I don't think another blocking level is possible, my suggestion would be to use wgRevokePermissions and to create a new group that can be assigned to users blocked for serious reasons so that they are unable to unblock themselves. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 06:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::It's a good idea, I agree! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 11:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::: At that point, why not simply remove the sysop permissions? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 16:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::: Also, does the community believe BrandonWM's block was valid? I had said before if there were no objections I would reblock them. One user claimed the block was a "clear error" but did not have a convincing case as to why. I think the topic ban violation is clearly verifiable, see [[User_talk:BrandonWM|talk page]] for that, and does not appear to be in error. I would assume by the comments the community agrees it is valid but most people are talking about the problem in general and not this specific case. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 16:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::I forgot to mention, that even if admins don't have the right to unblock themselves, if it's a partial block the user isn't considered "blocked" so they can still do it. Probably only removing administrator permission is feasibility. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 16:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::: It's also worth noting that it appears that if you have talk page access on you can also delete and protect your talk page. Also also, a blocked user who is a sysop can still block the person who blocked them, this change is because of compromised sysop accounts. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 16:40, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::Again, you seem to be ignoring the fact that Void had the hard-line restrictions removed. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 23:40, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::::BrandonWM, you are correct, as per what is clearly stated on your talk page both by myself and Void. |
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:::::::Everyone else, please check his talk page before jumping to conclusions and give him a break. I regret blocking him. [[User:Kiko4564|Kiko4564]] ([[User talk:Kiko4564|talk]]) 07:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::: Void did not remove the restrictions. They removed Kiko4564's block and suggested reducing the restrictions. ''You'' are ignoring the fact that you violated your topic ban and also unblocked yourself, which is a much more important problem. In addition, a consul has already participated in this discussion and proposed a solution to the problem of users unblocking themself, despite Kiko4564 pretending it was completely fine for users to do that as long as they themself believe the block was wrong. And even if they were removed, you still violated them prior to that comment. Trying to excuse the fact that you violated the topic ban and also the fact that the edits were disruptive just reinforces why there was a need for a topic ban to have been made in the first place. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 16:01, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:Per our conversation on [[mh:m:IRC|IRC]], I am posting my rationale for using the <code>unblockself</code> permission. I believe the block was wrongly made and poorly justified. I had received messages of support from other crats in the hours before using the permission, and as such I felt comfortable in using it. If I had been alone in believing the block was wrong, I wouldn't have removed it, and instead elected to wait for another member of the community to remove the block. Void had also removed the hard-line restrictions, and as my edits were non-disruptive, there was no need for a block. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 04:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:: This is not true at all. |
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:: {{tq|I had received messages of support from other crats in the hours before using the permission}} Actually, no, you received [https://test.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BrandonWM&action=history&offset=20220914235959&limit=3 no such messages] between [[special:redirect/logid/25100|being blocked]] and [[special:redirect/logid/25104|unblocking yourself]]. There were no messages of support from other crats when you decided on your own it was wrong and removed it. Even after the fact only one person agreed that it was OK for you to unblock yourself (not "other crats" plural) - with four users including a consul agreeing it was not OK. |
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:: {{tq|and as such I felt comfortable in using it}} You shouldn't have. It will never be OK for a user to unblock themself, especially as seen in this discussion. If it was really that bad someone else will. There's no need for you to remove it yourself. |
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:: {{tq|If I had been alone in believing the block was wrong, I wouldn't have removed it}} You were. And if you weren't, why didn't those people remove it? |
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:: {{tq|Void had also removed the hard-line restrictions}} Again, Void did not remove the restrictions. What Void actually said was: {{tq|I <b><i>propose</i></b> the restriction be reduced down to a general recommendation against making any "official" style changes without prior on-wiki approval, and an understanding that less leniency will be given in the event of future disruption. }} - the restrictions were not removed and remain in effect. In addition, I would call this the less leniency in the event of future disruption, as will be seen soon. |
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:: {{tq|s my edits were non-disruptive}} Firstly, it doesn't matter whether they were disruptive. You violated your topic ban and that's not okay. Topic bans are enforced by blocking the user if they violate it. If you believed you could have made good edits in those areas, you should have requested removal, not simply violated it. As explained before, {{tq|A ban is not merely a request to avoid editing "unless they behave". The measure of a ban is that even if the editor were to make good edits, permitting them to edit in those areas is perceived to pose enough risk of disruption, issues, or harm, that they may not edit at all, even if the edits seem good.}}. Amen. I don't think I could have said it better myself. |
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:: And secondly, they '''were''' disruptive. For example [https://test.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=TestWiki:Request_permissions&diff=prev&oldid=46125 this unnecessary removal], [https://test.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=TestWiki:Request_permissions&diff=44628&oldid=44627 this innapropriate self-handling], and [https://test.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=TestWiki:Request_permissions&diff=next&oldid=44780 interacting with other users]. |
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:: Because of this, I do not see any valid justification for your actions. In addition, several users have agreed it is not okay for recipients of non-test blocks to unblock themselves, instead taking any of their concerns to a bureaucrat or consul. In addition, the original block has not been proven to be incorrect, and continues to only show to be more and more justified with the user attempting to justify their topic-ban evasion and justification of self-unblocks, repeating the behavior that led to that in the first place and reminding me of why they were blocked and locked originally in 2020, despite their claims to have changed. Because of this, I propose that the original block is reinstated. Please leave your thoughts and / or concerns below. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 04:58, 22 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::In which case [[User:Naleksuh]], please wait for a Consul to attend to this incident and deal with this directly, instead of wheel warring with a Consul over whether or not [[User:BrandonWM]] ought to be blocked or not, even partially. I've blocked [[User:BrandonWM]] myself, and all I said was that if [[User:Void]] deemed it fit to remove the block I imposed, then so be it, and if you don't think that [[User:BrandonWM]] should've been unblocked, then you were in the wrong to engage in a wheel war, and therefore (on this occasion) [[User:BrandonWM]] was right to remove the block because: 1) it was wrong, having resulted from clear cut wheel warring and based on restrictions which had already been removed and 2) I agreed that it was right to remove it since I believed that it was a clear cut mistake. If the incident isn't serious enough to warrant desysoping, then my opinion is that it cannot serious enough to warrant a serious block. However I could be wrong. If you disagree, then please discuss the matter civilly instead of wheel warring. I never pretended that it was OK for an admin to unblock themselves just because they disagree with the block. If it were, then almost everyone would unblock themselves. Thanks. [[User:Kiko4564|Kiko4564]] ([[User talk:Kiko4564|talk]]) 23:11, 23 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::: {{tq|discuss the matter civilly instead of wheel warring}} I did not wheel war. BrandonWM removed the block, and it has not been reinstated since. It may be reinstated when this discussion is closed, as consensus is that it is not okay for users to unblock themself. But I certainly have not wheel warred. In fact, this thread was specifically to avoid doing so. |
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:::: {{tq|BrandonWM was right to remove the block}} Consensus is in this thread that it is never okay for serious-blocked users to unblock themself. There will never be a situation in which '''the user who was blocked''' {{tq|was right to remove the block}}. And even if there was, this situation would not be one of them. |
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:::: {{tq|restrictions which had already been removed}} For the '''''third time''''', Void specifically said they ''proposed'' removing the restrictions, which did not gain much support and I personally would oppose. As of now the restrictions remain in effect. Please stop saying they were removed both because Void did '''not''' say that and even if they did I'm not sure consuls are allowed to unliterally do that. |
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:::: To any uninvolved consuls now is a good time to close this discussion which has already run its course. Four users including a consul agree that self-unblocks are not OK, and by extension I believe they should be considered block evasion. In the words of Reception123 one of the uninvolved participants and a consul, {{tq|[They] should've just asked another bureaucrat or consul though, not taken things into [their] own hands}} [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 00:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Alright, we'll agree to disagree then. I'm just saying that had you continued, the result would've been a wheel war. Thanks for not doing that. I'll let Void explain their actions personally. [[User:Kiko4564|Kiko4564]] ([[User talk:Kiko4564|talk]]) 11:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== AutoImport and old requests for permissions == |
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Hello! This bot has archived the topics in Archive 12 instead of archive 13. Could someone please see it? Thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 06:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== Request for Consulship == |
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{{discussion top|1=When one dusts off this old request, they find it was successful. <span style="text-shadow:7px 5px 7px grey;font-family:High Tower Text">-- [[User:Void|<span style="color:#123524">Void</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Void|<span style="color:#353839">''Whispers''</span>]]</sup></span> 03:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)}} |
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Hi everyone, I'm Agent Isai and I'm requesting local <code>consul</code> here on <code>testwiki</code>. While I'm not the most active here on TestWiki due to my other global responsibilities such as being a Steward, I do check in every so often and generally have to look in to this wiki every few days due to other cross-wiki cases such as abuse by socks and so on. The reason for requesting the bit is because the current Consuls seem to be inactive. Dmehus used to be the main handler of things like inactivity demotions but he, nor has anyone else, handled this since May which is concerning. There are also a few other tasks which sometimes seem to drag on due to the inactivity of the current consuls so I'd like to help the upkeep of this community which is vital to Miraheze as it serves as a testbed for many users. Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 14:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} Trusted, experienced, active user and steward. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC) |
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#{{s}} --[[User:Syunsyunminmin|Syunsyunminmin]] ([[User talk:Syunsyunminmin|talk]]) 14:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC) |
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#Question: Regarding RFP, you declined an RFP who used the reason <code>For testing</code> asking what testing they wanted to do, but accepted an RFP with the reason <code>Testing</code> with no questions just 27 hours later. Any reason for the inconsistency? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 00:17, 10 November 2022 (UTC) |
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#:As I said on #miraheze-cvt, I asked for clarification about the first user's RfP as they already had an account with bureaucrat and sysop so I was wondering what they needed to test with yet a second account. As for accepting the second user's RfP, our standards for accepting RfPs are rather low. We do seem to grant users sysop (and even bureaucrat it seems) if users request it with a one or two word request. I did also note that I did it in part to see what the second user would do as it was suspected that they were a sockpuppet of a community banned user and it did end up that they were a sock. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 03:07, 12 November 2022 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} Since activity ''doesn't'' really apply here, then AI is good to go. [[User:Ugochimobi|Ugochimobi]] ([[User talk:Ugochimobi|talk]]) 09:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC) |
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# {{Support|strong}} Steward, trusted user. They’re an exceptionally good caretaker of the community. Happy to support. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 00:17, 27 November 2022 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 00:38, 27 November 2022 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} [[User:Universal Omega|Universal Omega]] ([[User talk:Universal Omega|talk]]) 00:40, 27 November 2022 (UTC) |
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#{{support}} [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 12:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC) |
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{{discussion bottom}} |
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== Enable PortableInfoboxCreator == |
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I would like to request that a bureaucrat enable this as I need it for template testing and I lack bureaucratic rights. [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 23:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC) |
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== Improvements to Test Wiki == |
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:@[[User:Blad|Blad]], do you mean you want bureaucrat permissions? If you want it, you can request it at [[TW:RfP]] after 3 more edits. [[User:Syunsyunminmin|Syunsyunminmin]] ([[User talk:Syunsyunminmin|talk]]) 06:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::I am not. I was requesting a bureaucrat to enable an extension as I lack those rights. If I were able to request bureaucrat, I would've gone there instead. [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 11:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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:The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. |
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:::sorry. I don't understand exactly what you want. I expect a response by other crat or consul. [[User:Syunsyunminmin|Syunsyunminmin]] ([[User talk:Syunsyunminmin|talk]]) 13:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::This RfC is closed as follows: |
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::::Aright, that's fine. [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 13:23, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::Proposal 1 - Unsuccessful. |
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:What extension is PortableInfoboxCreator? It doesn't seem to exist. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 13:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::Proposal 2 - Unsuccessful by virtue of Meta RfC being unenforceable. |
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::It should be [[mw:Extension:PortableInfobox|this one]]. I had made an error in the extension name. [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 14:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::Proposal 3 - Already done so moot. |
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:::[[User:Blad|Blad]], this has now been {{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/25930|done]]}} per your reasonable request. :) [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:04, 12 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::Proposal 4 - No real discussion occured so unsuccessful. |
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::Proposal 5 - This does not really define what any such logo to replace the current logo would look like so unsuccessful. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 04:03, 16 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Inactive Rights Removal - 2022-11-11 == |
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The rights of the following users will be removed on or after '''2022-11-19''' if they do not return to activity: |
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* <s>{{RFP/User|1108-Kiju}}</s> now [[Special:Contributions/1108-Kiju|active]] |
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* {{RFP/User|50829!}} |
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* <s>{{RFP/User|Ahecht}}</s> [[Special:Diff/46840|now active]] |
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* {{RFP/User|Ajhalili2006}} |
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* {{RFP/User|Avengium}} |
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* {{RFP/User|Blua lago}} |
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* <s>{{RFP/User|C1K98V}}</s> |
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* {{RFP/User|Chrs}} |
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* {{RFP/User|Cigaryno}} |
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* {{RFP/User|Erté}} |
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* {{RFP/User|EthanGaming7640}} |
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* {{RFP/User|Hellk78}} |
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* {{RFP/User|Hellk78-test}} |
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:[[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) |
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:For the Consul Team |
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:: I would like to retain my permission. Thanks for the notification. Stay safe. [[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|💬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|✒️]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|📂]])</sup> 03:37, 12 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::Please remove my flag, it is no longer needed. Thanks. [[User_talk:Stang|'''<span style="font-family:Cursive; color:#F50" lang="en">Stang</span>''']] 17:41, 12 November 2022 (UTC) |
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:::{{done}} ([[Special:Redirect/logid/25950|Log]]) [[User:Syunsyunminmin|Syunsyunminmin]] ([[User talk:Syunsyunminmin|talk]]) 07:06, 13 November 2022 (UTC) |
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== What is this? == |
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When I tap the three dots next to “Create Account”, this option appears |
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606ms (PHP7 via testwiki@mw121 / / cp23 |
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what is this and how can I remove it? [[Special:Contributions/2001:8004:51C0:2705:9832:C0F5:A666:7350|2001:8004:51C0:2705:9832:C0F5:A666:7350]] 08:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:I've removed the JS bit that does this as it was intended as a test initially. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 02:03, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Inactive Rights Removal - 2023-01-08 == |
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* <s>{{RFP/User|Hoof Hearted}}</s> per below |
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For the Consuls,<br /> [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 01:52, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Agent Isai|Agent Isai]] Please retain my rights, thanks. [[User:SD hehua|SD hehua]] ([[User talk:SD hehua|talk]]) 02:54, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{Done|Marked}} [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 03:57, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:I'm still here. Just a little busy though! [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] ([[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk]]) 16:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{Done|Rights removed}} from users who did not reply. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 15:57, 20 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== User Rights == |
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What is the user group "Test Group"? [[User:Elijah Wilder|Elijah Wilder]] ([[User talk:Elijah Wilder|talk]]) 16:36, 12 January 2023 (UTC) |
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: It's so you can test with it. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 03:40, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== TestWiki RFC == |
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Hello everyone. These are some proposals I have thought about for a while, and some people also discussed off-wiki. Discuss if you agree with them or not. |
Hello everyone. These are some proposals I have thought about for a while, and some people also discussed off-wiki. Discuss if you agree with them or not. |
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#{{Support}} I support the inversion as proposed by Naleksuh for the existing domain to prevent breakages with existing links. If the intent (as I read it from context) is no longer to maintain a stand-alone non-miraheze instance for wiki testing, we should phase out discrete domains where it isn't relevant. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 03:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} I support the inversion as proposed by Naleksuh for the existing domain to prevent breakages with existing links. If the intent (as I read it from context) is no longer to maintain a stand-alone non-miraheze instance for wiki testing, we should phase out discrete domains where it isn't relevant. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 03:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC) |
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#:good idea [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 04:15, 28 January 2023 (UTC) |
#:good idea [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 04:15, 28 January 2023 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} as it can work better technically (it will be recognized as a Miraheze domain by software) and also indicate that this is a Miraheze project. |
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#:What do you mean by per Reception? Reception's argument is a [[w:sunk cost fallacy|sunk cost fallacy]], you haven't explained why it's correct. [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 19:43, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
#:What do you mean by per Reception? Reception's argument is a [[w:sunk cost fallacy|sunk cost fallacy]], you haven't explained why it's correct. [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 19:43, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#:: There are multiple issues with it, not just that. But yes, everything Reception123 has said has already been addressed by multiple people. Discussions are not votes, so "oppose per Reception123" without adding new information is not helpful. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 20:03, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
#:: There are multiple issues with it, not just that. But yes, everything Reception123 has said has already been addressed by multiple people. Discussions are not votes, so "oppose per Reception123" without adding new information is not helpful. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 20:03, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#::: In addition, many of the supports to making test wiki an official project were only done on the condition that the custom domain was removed, so to make it an official project without removing the custom domain would wrong these users. In addition, the custom domain is not controlled by Miraheze. Since it looks like there is pretty much all there is to say, consensus continues to form here and on Meta, and opposers are just going in circles I would like this request to be closed soon and the domain updated [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 20:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
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# {{Oppose}} per above. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 20:26, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#:So, "per above" is a [[w:sunk cost fallacy|sunk cost fallacy]]. Have you considered responding to that concern yet? [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 06:26, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
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# {{Oppose}} After having giving this a lot of thought, and weighing both oppositions and supports, I have decided to oppose this proposal. I know I previously stated on the metawiki RfC that I would be against it keeping a custom domain, if it became official, however after having carefully weighed all sides to thus argument, my opinion on the matter as slightly swayed to the point of supporting keeping the custom domain. A custom domain for the test wiki, such as the current, publictestwiki.com, helps to distinguish it from other similar wikis, such as potential SRE test wikis (even though I know we don't have any on the miraheze.org domain, others wont be so aware, and reverting to test.miraheze.org brings this possible confusion to light). This distinction gives the test wiki a unique identity and makes it stand out as a separate entity. Additionally, having a custom domain allows the test wiki to be easily recognisable and memorable, which can be especially useful for users who need to frequently access it. As for the point of where it becomes inconsistent when listing the official wikis, this is not necessarily true. It can still be advertised as an official wiki like test.miraheze.org (and [[mh:test|test]] still uses test.miraheze.org) I do not see why we would list it as an official wiki as publictestwiki.com, for all official wiki advertising of the domain, it would still be done as test.miraheze.org. This was a difficult decision to oppose, but for the reasons I have articulated, I am. [[User:Universal Omega|Universal Omega]] ([[User talk:Universal Omega|talk]]) 04:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#: The issue though is that test.miraheze.org usually redirects to publictestwiki.com when a MediaWiki redirect is taking place, though if it's a valid page both links will work. Therefore, the issue would be an official wiki on the publictestwiki.com domain (which also isn't a Miraheze-controlled domain). [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:05, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#:Then change the URL to something like publictesting.miraheze.org or whatever. [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 06:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
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# {{Oppose}} Originally, I wasn't going to vote on this proposal, but after looking at it and carefully considering the supporting and opposing arguments, I've decided to oppose, mainly for two reasons: 1) since the RfC on Meta to make TestWiki an official project failed on the basis of there being no "official" Miraheze projects, there is no reason to change the domain to "test.miraheze.org", which was the whole point of the proposal to remove the custom domain; 2) since the custom domain has been around for so long, it's been linked to a lot, and is even linked in one of the reasons for declining wiki requests. Removing it would leave two options: redirect it to "test.miraheze.org" and continue renewing the domain, which would not save any money, or redirect it to "test.miraheze.org" and let the custom domain expire, which would break a lot of old links and potentially risk having the custom domain being acquired and used for malicious purposes. Additionally, some users agree that the timing of this proposal was poor, since this proposal was started around the time the custom domain was renewed again, but there are arguments against that claim. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 03:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC) |
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==== Comments (1) ==== |
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# Forgive me if this was already covered but wouldn't it be possible for the domain to be placed under Board/Miraheze control, thus making it an official domain and minimizing the issue? The fact that testwiki primarily functions for the Miraheze platform is a good reason otherwise to me for making it test.miraheze.org (consistency with other satellite projects) but if we have a cool domain that people like then this would seem to be a decent compromise. --[[User:Raidarr|Raidarr]] ([[User talk:Raidarr|talk]]) 22:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC) |
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=== Proposal 2: Make TestWiki an "official" Miraheze project === |
=== Proposal 2: Make TestWiki an "official" Miraheze project === |
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{{discussion top|{{Not Done|Unsuccessful}}, as elaborated by John on Meta. This proposal would only have been successful if both had been passed, which is not the case. As a result, this proposal is redundant. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 03:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)}} |
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Not sure if this needs to be discussed on Meta, but a good idea for 1) what is already defacto the case 2) makes it easier to point people requesting test wikis here. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 23:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
Not sure if this needs to be discussed on Meta, but a good idea for 1) what is already defacto the case 2) makes it easier to point people requesting test wikis here. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 23:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
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=== Proposal 3: Remove inactivity exemptions === |
=== Proposal 3: Remove inactivity exemptions === |
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# {{Abstain}} If someone thinks they can design a better version I've got nothing against that, but at the same time I do like the current one. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:44, 21 January 2023 (UTC) |
# {{Abstain}} If someone thinks they can design a better version I've got nothing against that, but at the same time I do like the current one. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:44, 21 January 2023 (UTC) |
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# {{Abstain}} I don't like carte blanche. I will look at the logo that will be changed and make a decision. [[User:Syunsyunminmin|Syunsyunminmin]] ([[User talk:Syunsyunminmin|talk]]) 18:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#:: I do agree that a proposal to change the logo without a new logo is kind of silly, and also impossible (what happens if it passes, but there's no logo to change to?). And I am kind of a status quo person. But, I don't think it's that big a deal and isn't super awesome. If MediaWiki can change their logo after 17 years of having the same one, why not Test Wiki in only 7? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
#:: I do agree that a proposal to change the logo without a new logo is kind of silly, and also impossible (what happens if it passes, but there's no logo to change to?). And I am kind of a status quo person. But, I don't think it's that big a deal and isn't super awesome. If MediaWiki can change their logo after 17 years of having the same one, why not Test Wiki in only 7? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
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#:::And I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to that, but as you say, without one or more logos, or graphical logo ideas for inspiration, around which to have a discussion, this is a case of [[wikt:put the cart before the horse|putting the proverbial cart before the horse]], I'm afraid. :) [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 05:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
#:::And I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to that, but as you say, without one or more logos, or graphical logo ideas for inspiration, around which to have a discussion, this is a case of [[wikt:put the cart before the horse|putting the proverbial cart before the horse]], I'm afraid. :) [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 05:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
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#::::The proposal is that we design a new logo. The proposal is not to change the logo to X. [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 06:33, 4 February 2023 (UTC) |
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#::: [edit conflict] Actually, I thought about it and I'm not sure that's so silly after all. It's avoiding the repeat of the reCAPTCHA problem. People couldn't settle on a replacement for reCAPTCHA, and one SRE member took that as evidence that everyone was fine with reCAPTCHA, even though many people had spoken out with problems about it and made it clear that some sort of change should happen. People also opposed hCaptcha for having the same problem as reCAPTCHA, which that user was trying to claim didn't exist. So, it's not a bad idea to have a discussion of this, just to see if people would like a change. If there was a new logo, people might oppose just because "I would like a change but not to that". So, this tells us if people want a change, or not. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
#::: [edit conflict] Actually, I thought about it and I'm not sure that's so silly after all. It's avoiding the repeat of the reCAPTCHA problem. People couldn't settle on a replacement for reCAPTCHA, and one SRE member took that as evidence that everyone was fine with reCAPTCHA, even though many people had spoken out with problems about it and made it clear that some sort of change should happen. People also opposed hCaptcha for having the same problem as reCAPTCHA, which that user was trying to claim didn't exist. So, it's not a bad idea to have a discussion of this, just to see if people would like a change. If there was a new logo, people might oppose just because "I would like a change but not to that". So, this tells us if people want a change, or not. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
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#:::: Edit conflict update: This is an amendment to my own previous comment, not a reply to Dmehus. The cart thing makes no sense. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
#:::: Edit conflict update: This is an amendment to my own previous comment, not a reply to Dmehus. The cart thing makes no sense. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 05:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
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# {{oppose}} to a vote of change for change's sake. If a specific improvement comes along, by all means. If people are interested in brainstorming, they're free to do so for its own sake irrespective of this. --[[User:Raidarr|Raidarr]] ([[User talk:Raidarr|talk]]) 20:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section </div> |
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== Proposed new TestWiki logo (from above RfC discussion) == |
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== Requests for Comment == |
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The RfC for a new logo was recently closed with the rational: ''This does not really define what any such logo to replace the current logo would look like so unsuccessful.'' I personally liked the previous logo, but just thought it needed a little updating. Please voice your opinion on this logo that I have made. [[User:LC Developer|LC Developer]] ([[User talk:LC Developer|talk]]) |
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Hi everyone. Due to the recent influx of Requests for Comment here on TestWiki, I have created a separate page for them at [[TestWiki:Requests for Comment]]. I have also moved two RfCs from here to there. You are all invited to comment on them, they are [[TestWiki:Requests for Comment/Proposals]] (proposed by Naleksuh) and [[TestWiki:Requests for Comment/Amending Consul policy]] (proposed by BrandonWM). Thank you! [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 07:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC) |
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: First off, two is not an "influx". Second, you shouldn't have just started moving other people's comments without a discussion or at least a delay. Maybe I'll move your comment to [[Talk:Rollback test]] next? [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) |
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=== Voting: === |
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::If it were on topic for the page and are more appropriate for there, yes, are they though? No. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC) |
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#{{strong support|Support as nominator}} [[User:LC Developer|LC Developer]] ([[User talk:LC Developer|talk]]) 12:45, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
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#:{{support}} [[User:Atom studying itself|Atom studying itself]] ([[User talk:Atom studying itself|talk]]) 13:59, 2 August 2023 (UTC) |
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#{{support}} --'''[[User:78-Yellowcat|<span style="color:#ffd700">78Meow</span>]]''' ('''[[User talk:78-Yellowcat|<span style="color:#ffd700">Talk</span>]]''') 11:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC) |
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#:@[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] --'''''[[User:78-Yellowcat|<span style="color:#ffd700">78Meow</span>]]''''' ('''[[User talk:78-Yellowcat|<span style="color:#ffd700">Talk</span>]]''') 10:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{support}} [[User:JustaUsername|JustaUsername]] ([[User talk:JustaUsername|talk]]) 03:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{support}} [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 02:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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{{comment}} If anyone has any suggestions for how the logo can be improved,(minor changes, not fundamental design changes) please place them below. [[User:LC Developer|LC Developer]] ([[User talk:LC Developer|talk]]) 17:13, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:Configure the text part like the original logo? [[User:Atom studying itself|Atom studying itself]] ([[User talk:Atom studying itself|talk]]) 10:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC) |
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== Inactive Rights Removal - 2023-03-20 == |
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* <s>{{RFP/User|Avengium}}</s> Requested [[Special:Diff/49163|removal]] |
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* <s>{{RFP/User|ZI Jony}}</s> now [[Special:Diff/49161|active]]. |
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For the Consuls,<br /> [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 05:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:Request retention of rights. --[[User:1108-Kiju|1108-Kiju]] ([[User talk:1108-Kiju|talk]]) 06:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{Done}} [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 13:16, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Can I begin removing the rights of inactive users? Or can you? [[User:LC Developer|LC Developer]] ([[User talk:LC Developer|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Only consuls are permitted to as far as I am aware. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 02:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:All users except 50829! and Thingofme, and those who are now active, have been removed. [[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> 16:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Please enable translation == |
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Please enable translation of [[TestWiki:Consuls]].--[[User:1108-Kiju|1108-Kiju]] ([[User talk:1108-Kiju|talk]]) 06:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[User:Syunsyunminmin/TestWiki:Consuls|Here]] are the translation tags that might be expected. [[User:Syunsyunminmin|Syunsyunminmin]] ([[User talk:Syunsyunminmin|talk]]) 17:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Is it ok to upload a file in this wiki (for testing) and then deleting it or request deletion of it after testing? == |
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Hi. :) Is it ok to upload a file in this wiki (for testing) and then deleting it or request deletion of it after testing? [[User:Mat333o|Mat333o]] ([[User talk:Mat333o|talk]]) 21:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC) |
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: Sure, there have been tests of file uploads before. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 22:06, 4 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the response, but what if the file is copyrighted? The file that I want to upload for testing is the cover of a [[W:Single (music)|single]]. [[User:Mat333o|Mat333o]] ([[User talk:Mat333o|talk]]) 21:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
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== Request for Consul == |
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::{{Not Done}} Per all opposes, this is [[w:WP:TOOSOON|too soon]] and [[w:WP:SNOW|doesn't have a chance]] of passing. User is invited to contribute more to Miraheze, and one day may re-request these rights. Today is not that day, but that is not to say that day will never come. Just not today. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 04:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
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I would like to nominate myself for Consul [[User:AirmanKitten203|AirmanKitten203]] ([[User talk:AirmanKitten203|talk]]) 15:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{oppose|Strong}}. You have 35 contributions, most in your userspace. You have granted few to no permissions and you aren't very active. You have also removed rights from a user that was inactive, even though only consuls should do so. I think there is a need for consuls, but we aren't this desperate. I would become more active, grant more permissions, and get more edits for a few months before requesting. I have also noticed you are a hat-collecter crosswiki and I think this shows that. You have also not given a reason for wanting consul rights or why you are qualified. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 15:48, 27 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::I also cannot support a user that forgot to sign or punctuate their nomination statement. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 21:35, 27 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:::I would note that forgetting signatures is a common thing, I forget to do so all the time, so that's not really a big deal. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 03:34, 28 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::::I forget too, but if you want to nominate yourself for a position as trustworthy as consul, please sign your statement. @[[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]]: The signing is minor compared to the other issues I have described above. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 10:31, 28 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:You must demonstrate activity for at least 6 months. '''Oppose'''. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 21:23, 2 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{Oppose|strong}} Per the above. Will be closing as such per [[w:WP:SNOW|WP:SNOW]]. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 04:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
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==Inactive Rights Removal - 2023-05-17== |
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The rights of the following users will be removed on or after '''2023-05-24''' if they do not return to activity: |
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*{{RFP/User|Ahecht}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Alidonis}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Ameisenigel}}</s> |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Blad}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Buehl106}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Dimpizzy}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Hoof Hearted}}</s> [[Special:Diff/51555|now active]] |
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*{{RFP/User|Revival}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|SD hehua}}</s> |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Tali64³}}</s> |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Ugochimobi}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|XtexChooser}} |
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Thanks, |
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:[[User:Agent Isai|<span style="color:skyblue">'''Agent</span><span style="color:lime;" > Isai'''</span>]] <sup>[[m:User talk:Agent Isai|<span style="color:orange;">'''Talk to me!'''</span>]]</sup> |
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:For the Consul team, |
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:16:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::Striking {{RFP/User|Ameisenigel}} as now active. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 17:26, 17 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:I would like to keep my permissions, thanks. [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 12:24, 19 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{done}}. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 13:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Hi, I would also like to retain my permissions. Is it possible to be made exempt from inactivity rules please? Regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] ([[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk]]) 17:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{Done|[[Special:Diff/51558|Done]]}}. By your act of [[Special:Diff/51555|replying]], you are now active. Given your activity level, as well as your rationale, or lack thereof, I do not see a compelling ''need'' for an inactivity [[TestWiki:Inactivity/Exceptions|exception]] as you can just make one edit. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 18:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::Kindly keep my perm. Thanks. [[User:Ugochimobi|Ugochimobi]] ([[User talk:Ugochimobi|talk]]) 09:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:::{{done}}. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 11:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::I'd also like to keep my administrator permissions for now. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 03:33, 3 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::{{done}}. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 15:49, 3 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{Done|Rights removed from six (6) users}}. One by Agent Isai awhile ago; five by me today. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::There are not many participants in this discussion, but also no one in opposition, either, and [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] has been a long-term, regular, always active, and trusted contributor to '''Public Test Wiki'''. As well, they've confirmed their Wikimedia, Test Wiki, The Test Wiki, and other user accounts, so closing as '''successful'''. Congratulations, and welcome to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] team. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:30, 3 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] for Consul == |
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Hello Public Test Wiki Community! I am here today to nominate a highly qualified user, AlPaD, for consulship. Not only are they one of the most active users on the wiki, but they are extremely helpful in granting permissions and conversing with newer users on their talk page. Above all, they are always very kind and respectful to other users. There is also a desperate need for another consul. Most of our consuls haven't edited in at least a month, some many months. Zppix is the only one who has, and one user can't run a wiki of this size alone. That's where AlPaD comes in, so I hope you will join my in supporting AlPaD for consul. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 15:37, 27 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:''Candidate, please indicate your acceptance here:''I accepted, many thanks {{Ping|Globe}}. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 15:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC) |
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=== Questions: === |
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=== Votes/Discussion: === |
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* {{support}} as nominator. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 15:37, 27 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Closure of consul vote with no input... == |
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Hey @[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]], closure of a Consul election in just under a week with no input from anyone beyond the original nominator seems a bit... unorthodox. I only just happened to see the request today, in fact. |
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Admittedly I'm not the closest follower of testwiki history, but looking through archives I can't find any other example of comparably brisk/limited input handling for advanced rights aside from speedy closures due to unanimous opposition. |
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Is there a particular policy/precedent you're using in making this close? |
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[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 06:05, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:I'd also like to see the closure overturned. I don't believe other consuls were notified, there was no site notice, etc. |
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:I don't think a lack of response can be assumed consensus. |
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:I'm also not convinced had I had the opportunity to vote that I would have supported. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 06:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::I too would like to see this overturned, this was a unilateral decision that was decided by a single person with no input from other consuls at all. Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 06:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Hello! I'd like to thank you all for your input, about closing I'd like to say that whether the proposal is reopened or not and whether I'm consul or not in the end I'll continue to help out on TestWiki and improve my flaws. Even if the closure of the proposal is not reverted, I would like to hear your opinion, even informally, on whether I should become a consul and what I should correct. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::I agree with @[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] that a more of informal approach should occur next. I’m not sure why all 3 of you are waiting till a few hours after closing to bring this up, when you should’ve voted originally. I’ve messaged @[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] on Discord informing him of this discussion. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 11:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::As mentioned, I literally just found out this existed yesterday when I came back into cell reception. It's a holiday weekend for many in the US, so several folks in the conversation may have been outside internet service for the last few days like myself. |
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:::::Regardless of reasons/AlPaD's qualifications, I don't personally find that expedited closure with one vote and no consultation with other consuls reflects the 'community consensus' defined in the appointment criteria, but it's not my place to make that call - I simply wanted to raise it as a concern. |
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:::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 14:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your question. The discussion was open for a week. If I had concerns about the nominee, I would not have closed and would have expressed a view. I did take care into ensuring it was compliant with the current [[TestWiki:Policies|policies]] and, in particular, in terms of precedents, I followed [[TestWiki:Community portal/Archive 2#Request for Consul by Zppix|this Consul request]], which Void closed as successful. As with this request, it, too, had only a single participant other than the nominee. Even in my close, I even borrowed and varied Void's wording. [[mh:meta:User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 13:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for taking the time to reply, Doug. I would note that in the case you reference, the request was held open for the better part of 2.5 months before closure, though is otherwise essentially on-par. |
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::Testwiki's understandably an odd one since folks aren't (for the most part) daily users, hopefully we can come up with some better ways to get community engagement on consequential RfConsulships that reflect the intent of 'community consensus' going forward. |
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::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 14:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::1 week is not enough time. Please reopen the discussion and allow further commentary. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 17:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::While I am definitely involved here, I’d oppose a re-opening of the discussion. In my opinion, 1 week is enough time to comment. If you miss that, it’s on you. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 17:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::TestWiki is not a wiki where it's core community are always active. As far as I know, this wasn't advertised prominently. We can't always be checking every discussion page. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 18:33, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::Still doesn’t excuse the fact you never discussed with other consuls before closing a discussion with so few participants. 1 person does not a consensus make. Zppix ([[:meta:User:Zppix|Meta]] | [[User talk:Zppix|talk to me]]) 17:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::I don’t think a consul discussion has ever been required to close. If policy says different, please link said policy. In addition, 3 people (not one) supported. |
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:::#The candidate (@[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]]) |
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:::#The nominator (@[[User:Globe|Globe]]) |
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:::#The closer (@[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]]) |
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:::[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 18:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::The candidates opinion of themselves is irrelevant. I don't think it's a codified policy but we would strongly encourage it. It's quite frankly just good manners to ask the others if they had anything to raise. The existing consuls are not exactly a large group. I will make the point of order that this isn't the first request to have one of Doug's closes on this wiki overturned and he also was forced to resign Steward or be removed due to concerns around supervoting. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 18:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Various observations and requests on this wiki == |
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hi, i've been noticing that not all extensions are enabled and wiki forum is linked on the sidebar but the special page doesn't exist because the extension is disabled. |
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may i request all extensions to be enabled? how much this affects the wiki load? i've also noticed that [[Special:MathStatus]] is giving a timeout (503), can anything be done about that? [[User:Juest|Juest]] ([[User talk:Juest|talk]]) 16:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC) |
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== About Inactive Rights Removal == |
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Hi. May onwards, no one seems to be dealing with Inactive Rights Removal. I think consul needs to do this. Regards! [[User:1108-Kiju|1108-Kiju]] ([[User talk:1108-Kiju|talk]]) 17:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|1108-Kiju}} Hi, thank you for your report. For some reason the message is not being sent correctly to the talk pages of inactive users. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] Thanks for the ping. [[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|💬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|✒️]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|📂]])</sup> 09:33, 16 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::Oh... Is this some kind of bug? [[User:1108-Kiju|1108-Kiju]] ([[User talk:1108-Kiju|talk]]) 10:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:::{{Ping|1108-Kiju}} Hi again and sorry for the late reply! The problem is not bug but I have fix it. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Thank you! --[[User:1108-Kiju|1108-Kiju]] ([[User talk:1108-Kiju|talk]]) 05:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC) |
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==Inactive Rights Removal - {{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{#expr: {{CURRENTDAY}}+7}}== |
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The rights of the following users will be removed on or after '''{{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{#expr: {{CURRENTDAY}}+7}}''' if they do not return to activity: |
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*{{RFP/User|2NumForIce}} |
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*{{RFP/User|50829!}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Air Baloon}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Airtransat236}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Asutnima}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Blad}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Carpimaps}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Collei}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Didkkdkdkd}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Farmer Cars}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Galigonen}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Gifted9}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Globe}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Grandmaster Huon}} |
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*{{RFP/User|HeyTürkiye}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Hoof Hearted}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Hypercane}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Jaben1777}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Juest}} |
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*{{RFP/User|LisafBia}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Lolkikmoddi}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Mayfair}} |
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*{{RFP/User|MdsShakil}} |
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*{{RFP/User|NotAracham}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Ottone}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Sakura emad}} |
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*{{RFP/User|SummerShores}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Syunsyunminmin}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Tali64³}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Test User 20221229}} |
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*{{RFP/User|TestWikiUser}} |
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*{{RFP/User|The Pro Gamer 2}} |
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*{{RFP/User|TheLegendaryOrb}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Thingofme}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Trke}} |
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*{{RFP/User|UnGiglio}} |
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*{{RFP/User|WikiTester}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Winfinity}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Xacis70013}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Zippybonzo}} |
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*{{RFP/User|~rikzun}} |
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:For the Consul Team |
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:{{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{CURRENTDAY}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:* This type of inactive rights removal should be taken seriously, and the given notice must be properly formed. In the future, please double check before sending. -- [[User:MdsShakil|MdsShakil]] ([[User talk:MdsShakil|talk]]) 09:09, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:*:Hello and thank you for your reply, sorry for my mistake, I started new inactive rights removal. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-01-15 == |
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The rights of the following users will be removed on or after '''2024-01-15''' if they do not return to activity: |
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*{{RFP/User|2NumForIce}} |
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*{{RFP/User|50829!}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Air Baloon}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Airtransat236}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Ameisenigel}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Asutnima}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Carpimaps}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Collei}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Didkkdkdkd}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Farmer Cars}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Galigonen}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Gifted9}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Globe}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Grandmaster Huon}} |
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*{{RFP/User|HeyTürkiye}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Hoof Hearted}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Juest}} |
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*{{RFP/User|LisafBia}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Lolkikmoddi}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Mayfair}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|NotAracham}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Ottone}} |
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*{{RFP/User|QuestionQues}} |
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*{{RFP/User|QuickQuokka}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Sakura emad}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Stevannus rua}} |
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*{{RFP/User|SummerShores}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Syunsyunminmin}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Tali64³}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Test User 20221229}} |
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*{{RFP/User|TestWikiUser}} |
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*{{RFP/User|The Pro Gamer 2}} |
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*{{RFP/User|TheBigRedZero}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|TheLegendaryOrb}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Thingofme}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Trke}} |
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*{{RFP/User|UnGiglio}} |
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*{{RFP/User|User3854}} |
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*{{RFP/User|WikiTester}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Winfinity}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Xacis70013}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Zippybonzo}} |
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*{{RFP/User|~rikzun}} |
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:[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) |
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:2024-01-8 |
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*{{Done|Rights removed from 40 users}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 11:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Request add UploadWizard == |
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Hello. Sometime I want to upload multiple files. UploadWizard is very convenient for me. How about adding it on TestWiki and Miraheze? [[User:Hurohukidaikon|Hurohukidaikon]] ([[User talk:Hurohukidaikon|talk]]) 00:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-03-11 == |
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The rights of the following users will be removed on or after '''2024-03-11''' if they do not return to activity: |
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*{{RFP/User|Atom studying itself}} |
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*{{RFP/User|CutieePuppy12}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|ManOMan}}</s> <small> User resigned </small> |
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*{{RFP/User|Nexovia}} |
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*{{RFP/User|RedShip98}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Rich Flight22}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Tanbiruzzaman}}</s> <small> User resigned </small> |
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*{{RFP/User|TerboGoodGame}} |
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:[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) |
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:For the Consul Team |
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:2024-03-4 |
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::Rights removed from all except Atom studying itself and Nexovia who are also bureaucrats. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 13:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{Done|Rights removed from 2 bureaucrats}} {{Ping|Globe}} Thank you for your help and sorry for my late response. |
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:[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 21:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::No problem! [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 23:00, 19 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Oauth install == |
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CAN you install Oauth extension.Is for test my new bot for vikidia. |
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Thanks |
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[[User:Rafdodo|Rafdodo]] ([[User talk:Rafdodo|talk]]) 18:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:OAuth is under the purview of SRE and enabling an entirely new extension (from what I can tell, this seems to be a request for that) is not within purview of this wiki. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 02:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Request for comment (common sense page needed) == |
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This wiki need [[Project:Common sense]] page. |
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About wikipedia have this page, wikipedia is unvisitable in China. [[User:Gongxiang01|Gongxiang01]] ([[User talk:Gongxiang01|talk]]) 04:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:There's absolutely no need for this page here. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 01:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::But rules have it. [[User:Gongxiang01|Gongxiang01]] ([[User talk:Gongxiang01|talk]]) 12:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Rules? [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 01:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== How do I delete pages (without requesting administrator) == |
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I'd like to test some things with images, which (I believe) doesn't require being an administrator. The policies say to delete pages after you're done ([[TestWiki:Main policy#Deleting and undeleting pages]], [[TestWiki:Testing policy#Editing and deleting pages]]), but trying to do so (e.g. on https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/File:Test.png?action=delete) says "The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Administrators." |
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Do I have to request for admin before carrying out my tests (or, I suppose during or after if I get it fast enough), or is there a way to mark pages for deletion and/or delete pages independently without admin? |
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- [[User:BlankEclair|BlankEclair]] ([[User talk:BlankEclair|talk]]) 13:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:BlankEclair|BlankEclair]]: According to the permissions list, non-admin users cannot delete pages themselves. --'''''[[User:78-Yellowcat|<span style="color:#ffd700">78Meow</span>]]''''' ('''[[User talk:78-Yellowcat|<span style="color:#ffd700">Talk</span>]]''') 10:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::So what should I do to clean up after myself? Do I need to request admin or is there somewhere I can go to to request deleting pages? [[User:BlankEclair|BlankEclair]] ([[User talk:BlankEclair|talk]]) 08:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::[[TW:RfP]] [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 14:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::You can also simply add <code><nowiki>{{delete|reason}}</nowiki></code> to the page. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 17:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Request for Consul: BrandonWM == |
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::There are not many participants in this discussion, but also no one in opposition, either, and [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] has been a long-term, regular, always active, trusted contributor to '''Public Test Wiki''' and he has greatly improved his actions. Also BrandonWM is administrator on meta and global rollbacker, so closing as '''successful'''. Congratulations, and welcome to the [[TestWiki:Consuls|Consul]] team. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 05:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Hi everyone, |
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I'm requesting consul here on TestWiki. I've been a major contributor here over the past few months, keeping a tab open at all times to the comings and goings of the wiki. I'm familiar with all TestWiki policies and am capable of deploying them when necessary (and also when not to). This can be evidenced by my Meta sysop edits, which is not radically different from a moderation perspective than TestWiki consul. I'm not quick to be the first, I let logic guide my decisions, and when unsure, I seek a second (or third) perspective. |
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If elected consul, I'd also start developing plans for a partial overhaul of the wiki (with community input of course), to see how we can better shape the wiki for the wider Miraheze community, as the current format is quite little known and rarely used by more than a select few. Potentially, we streamline how we organize the wiki, and include it in more documentation pages on Meta as well to make it easier to test features. Additionally, I'd love to put forth an RfF on [[TestWiki:Inactivity|TestWiki:Inactivity policy]]. I'd want to take a particular look at the 3 months inactivity time period, and whether that is still appropriate for the wiki. |
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The above is just a few ideas I have in mind, but I'd love to be able to expand to more with the community. I welcome any questions or concerns and am more than happy to answer any set forth. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 13:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Questions for candidate === |
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1.What do you think about [https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:Log?logid=26611| this action against you]? And as Agent Isai said {{tq|[...] was that you overreacted rather severely so of course, you are exhorted to keep a cool head and to not be so blunt when dealing with things[...]}},do you believe that your behaviour isn't same as it was before? [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 19:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Harvici}} Thank you for the question! Yes, absolutely. That incident occurred near a year and a half ago and I’ve absolutely learned from that mistake. Since then, I’ve become an administrator on Meta, Miraheze’s home wiki (equivalent to consul here), and have a good track record within the community. Those issues were present in the past, but have since not occurred, something I’m very glad about. TL;DR is yes, I fully believe those issues are behind me. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 21:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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2. Do you intend to assist with abuse filters that may require enabling restricted actions? [[User:Caimántriste|<b style="font-family:Verdana;color:#008000">''Caimántriste''</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Caimántriste|<b style="color:#355E3B;">talk</b>]]</sup> 02:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'm happy to assist with abuse filters where I can. My knowledge isn't the best with AF, but I have learned a lot since I was introduced to abuse filters and if requested, yes, I could give it a go and see what happens. Of course, I'd consult with fellow consuls first to ensure everything was in order, but as long as that's the case, I don't see why not. [[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] ([[User talk:BrandonWM|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/BrandonWM|contribs]]) 02:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Discussion === |
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''Please feel free to vote using the support, oppose, or abstain templates.'' |
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{{support| Strong support}} While going through the contributions of BrandonWM, it looked like he was a problematic user,but during an old conversation, I saw his reply to another user that said, '{{tq|[...] that is the standard set for all, and no one is above it.}} Hence, I certainly believe that he is capable of becoming a consul, and his behaviour isn't the same as it was.With the unexpected resignation of Agent Isai, I think he would be the best candidate. [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 01:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== SVG issue == |
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It seems the SVG features are disabled, because any SVG code I entered appear as plain text. I searched the site but only found [[SVG_test|a blank page]]. Could you enable SVG so I can run some tests? [[User:Spacing form|Spacing form]] ([[User talk:Spacing form|talk]]) 17:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:Bump... Scrolling up this page, it seems requests of features often go unanswered. To clarify, there's no need to download any new extensions, because Midiawikki has built-in SVG support, as stated on "Manual:Image administration". Hope an admin sees this. [[User:Spacing form|Spacing form]] ([[User talk:Spacing form|talk]]) 17:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Enable CustomSubtitle == |
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I would like to test [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CustomSubtitle|Extension:CustomSubtitle]] on this wiki. [[User:BlankEclair|BlankEclair]] ([[User talk:BlankEclair|talk]]) 10:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== About DISPLAYTITLE == |
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Displaytitle is not working. [[User:Googologyer|Googologyer]] ([[User talk:Googologyer|talk]]) 03:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Applicable diff: [[Special:Diff/57499]] |
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:It didn't work because the text "Titled page", when removed of formatting, does not equal "Displaytitle test". This is indicated by the automatic category [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles|Pages with ignored display titles]]. This restriction can be removed if a consul unchecks $wgRestrictDisplayTitle in [[Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-parserfunctions]]. [[User:BlankEclair|BlankEclair]] ([[User talk:BlankEclair|talk]]) 03:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-07-25== |
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The rights of the following users will be removed on or after '''2024-07-25''' if they do not return to activity: |
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*{{RFP/User|AgentBot}} |
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*{{RFP/User|AirmanKitten203}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Blahma}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Brewster239}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|BZPN.bot}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|C1K98V}}</s> |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Chirocca77}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|CutesyCoder}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Doug}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|EPIC}}</s> |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Excelsis}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Flordia hater}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Globe}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Hurohukidaikon}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Jaben1777}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Jalpes}} |
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*{{RFP/User|JustaUsername}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Karol739 test}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Liao}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Liaochina}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Lolkikmoddi}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Matr1x-101}} |
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*{{RFP/User|MdsShakil}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Mips H0L3}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Như Gây Mê}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Nobodythatyouknowloll}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Pasmorade}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|PharyngealImplosive7}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Piscolla}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Rafdodo}} |
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*{{RFP/User|SD hehua}} |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|Smileboy}}</s> |
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*<s>{{RFP/User|TenWhile6}}</s> |
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*{{RFP/User|Test32429}} |
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*{{RFP/User|Thegodofbakedbeans}} |
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:[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) |
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:For the Consul Team |
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:2024-07-18 |
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:{{Done|Rights removed from 31 users}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 08:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Request for interface admin == |
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Hello everyone! I recently created a script that I tested on my own MediaWiki and found it to work fine. You can see it here: [[User:BZPN/MassRollback.js]]. Now I would like to turn it into a gadget. However, to turn it into a gadget, I need interface admin permission. @[[user:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]] told me to fill out the request here, so can I ask the consul to grant it? I learned how to do this on my own wiki, so I guess I won't destroy anything :). I have already translated the script, and you can find its description here: [[User:BZPN/MassRollback]]. Have a nice day! [[User:BZPN|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:2.5px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>BZPN</b> </span>]] 06:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== CheckUser and Oversight == |
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Hello. I believe that the CheckUser permission should be granted on TestWiki. Miraheze stewards have the technical ability to grant it. Of course, this should be based on a community vote and the permission would not be for testing purposes. CheckUser could only be granted to combat possible vandalism and only to trusted users by voting. Miraheze could also enable the Oversight permission. It is true that it is more trusted, but what to do if someone, for example, shared their real phone number on TestWiki? You can create such requirements for these groups and minimize the risk. What do you think? [[User:BZPN|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:2.5px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>BZPN</b> </span>]] 10:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for raising this, @[[User:BZPN|BZPN]]. The idea of introducing CheckUser and Oversight permissions on TestWiki is certainly worth discussing. I understand the importance of having tools to address serious issues like vandalism or accidental sharing of private information. However, TestWiki is primarily a testing environment, and adding such high-level permissions could shift its focus. Typically, these permissions are reserved for wikis where the stakes are much higher, and the need for such tools is more pronounced.That being said, if there is enough community interest, we could consider a discussion or vote on this matter. It would be crucial to establish clear guidelines and strict criteria for who could be granted these permissions, ensuring they are used responsibly and only by trusted members.Looking forward to hearing what others think. [[User:Mediana|Mediana]] ([[User talk:Mediana|talk]]) 10:57, 15 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Mediana|Mediana]], You may be right, but just because TestWiki is a testing environment doesn't eliminate the risk. Moreover, bureaucrats and administrators will still be the test groups, and enabling checkuser and oversight would only increase the involvement of constantly active and trusted users (e.g. consuls). [[User:BZPN|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:2.5px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>BZPN</b> </span>]] 11:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for your input, @[[User:BZPN|BZPN]]. I really appreciate your concern for the security of TestWiki, and you raise a valid point about the risks that still exist, even in a testing environment. Your suggestion to involve active and trusted users like consuls makes a lot of sense.Given the potential impact of enabling these permissions, I think it’s important to gather more feedback from the community. It would be great to hear how others feel about this idea before we move forward. If there’s strong support, we can definitely consider a more formal discussion or vote. Let’s see what the community has to say. [[User:Mediana|Mediana]] ([[User talk:Mediana|talk]]) 11:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::::@[[User:BZPN|BZPN]] And for a information I contacted one of Global Administrator of Meta Miraheze so this was his reply I would like to tell you that the thing you have proposed has very less chance to be accepted as that’s not really possible as having CU/OS requires a non disclosure agreement with the WikiTide Foundation, and policy for local CU says there must be at least two and it wouldn’t be given for testing. [[User:Mediana|Mediana]] ([[User talk:Mediana|talk]]) 12:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I will summarize my concerns from our exchange on Discord; |
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:* Neither [[m:CheckUser]] or [[m:Oversight]] have demonstrated need to be assigned locally. This is a very high bar as you will see on the respective pages. I have actually never addressed a request for either of those on this wiki to date and this is consistent with a majority of wikis. |
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:* I empathize to the desire to remove PII as quickly as possible, but I am satisfied by the need for tight requirements over cutting that corner in response time. Local admins are empowered to use a temporary suppress until oversight arrives, which is still better than it being otherwise public and open to caching and scraping. Likewise it is rare that a circumstance appears for CU where having CU appear just a bit sooner significantly impacts the outcome. |
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:* Advanced access should never be used to 'jog up activity'. Please consider less sensitive methods to pursue this otherwise reasonable desire. |
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:For these reasons I firmly oppose this concept. |
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== New gadget == |
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I invite you to test the gadget I created: [[Gadget:MassRollback|MassRollback]]. Please share your opinion about it and report any errors. [[User:BZPN|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:2.5px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>BZPN</b> </span>]] 18:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Bureaucrat removal == |
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Please remove bureaucrat right from [[User:Vanished user 640b1d32d69f4b8933a471d7f1ae202c]], thanks. [[User:PB2008|PB2008]] ([[User talk:PB2008|talk]]) 11:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Ping for recently active consuls: @[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], @[[User:BrandonWM|BrandonWM]]. [[User:BZPN|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:2.5px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>BZPN</b> </span>]] 09:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{Done}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 12:21, 21 August 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 12:21, 21 August 2024
Welcome to the TestWiki Community portal! On this page, matters pertaining to the local TestWiki community can be discussed.
Post your questions, comments, or concerns below by the big blue button to the immediate right. |
Requests for Comment[edit source]
Hi everyone. Due to the recent influx of Requests for Comment here on TestWiki, I have created a separate page for them at TestWiki:Requests for Comment. I have also moved two RfCs from here to there. You are all invited to comment on them, they are TestWiki:Requests for Comment/Proposals (proposed by Naleksuh) and TestWiki:Requests for Comment/Amending Consul policy (proposed by BrandonWM). Thank you! Agent Isai Talk to me! 07:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- First off, two is not an "influx". Second, you shouldn't have just started moving other people's comments without a discussion or at least a delay. Maybe I'll move your comment to Talk:Rollback test next? Naleksuh (talk)
- If it were on topic for the page and are more appropriate for there, yes, are they though? No. Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Improvements to Test Wiki[edit source]
Proposed new TestWiki logo (from above RfC discussion)[edit source]
The RfC for a new logo was recently closed with the rational: This does not really define what any such logo to replace the current logo would look like so unsuccessful. I personally liked the previous logo, but just thought it needed a little updating. Please voice your opinion on this logo that I have made. LC Developer (talk)
![](http://static.miraheze.org/testwiki/thumb/5/52/TestWikiProposedLogo.png/400px-TestWikiProposedLogo.png)
Voting:[edit source]
Support LC Developer (talk) 12:45, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Support --78Meow (Talk) 11:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Support JustaUsername (talk) 03:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Support Harvici (talk) 02:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Comments:[edit source]
Comment If anyone has any suggestions for how the logo can be improved,(minor changes, not fundamental design changes) please place them below. LC Developer (talk) 17:13, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Configure the text part like the original logo? Atom studying itself (talk) 10:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Inactive Rights Removal - 2023-03-20[edit source]
The rights of the following users will be removed on or after 2023-03-27 if they do not return to activity, pursuant to the Inactivity policy:
1108-Kiju ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Active since then, per reply- 50829! ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Ahecht ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Artillect ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Aspallar ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Avengium ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Requested removal- CECBowlingGreen ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- DarkMatterMan4500 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Davidvia ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Erté ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Farmer Cars ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Kristiannumber1 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Lolkikmoddi ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- QueerEcofeminist ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- QWERASDF ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Rocielshinonome ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Sai10ukazuki ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Silicona ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Thingofme ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
ZI Jony ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )now active.- 沈澄心 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- 行雲流水 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
For the Consuls,
Agent Isai Talk to me! 05:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Request retention of rights. --1108-Kiju (talk) 06:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Done Agent Isai Talk to me! 13:16, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can I begin removing the rights of inactive users? Or can you? LC Developer (talk) 23:19, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Only consuls are permitted to as far as I am aware. BrandonWM (talk - contribs) 02:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can I begin removing the rights of inactive users? Or can you? LC Developer (talk) 23:19, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- All users except 50829! and Thingofme, and those who are now active, have been removed. Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Please enable translation[edit source]
Please enable translation of TestWiki:Consuls.--1108-Kiju (talk) 06:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Here are the translation tags that might be expected. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 17:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Is it ok to upload a file in this wiki (for testing) and then deleting it or request deletion of it after testing?[edit source]
Hi. :) Is it ok to upload a file in this wiki (for testing) and then deleting it or request deletion of it after testing? Mat333o (talk) 21:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, there have been tests of file uploads before. Naleksuh (talk) 22:06, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response, but what if the file is copyrighted? The file that I want to upload for testing is the cover of a single. Mat333o (talk) 21:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Request for Consul[edit source]
Inactive Rights Removal - 2023-05-17[edit source]
The rights of the following users will be removed on or after 2023-05-24 if they do not return to activity:
- Ahecht ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Alidonis ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Ameisenigel ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Blad ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Buehl106 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Dimpizzy ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Hoof Hearted ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )now active- Revival ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
SD hehua ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Tali64³ ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Ugochimobi ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- XtexChooser ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Thanks,
- Agent Isai Talk to me!
- For the Consul team,
- 16:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Striking Ameisenigel ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth ) as now active. Globe (talk) 17:26, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I would like to keep my permissions, thanks. Blad (talk) 12:24, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Done. Globe (talk) 13:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I would also like to retain my permissions. Is it possible to be made exempt from inactivity rules please? Regards, Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Done. By your act of replying, you are now active. Given your activity level, as well as your rationale, or lack thereof, I do not see a compelling need for an inactivity exception as you can just make one edit. Dmehus (talk) 18:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Kindly keep my perm. Thanks. Ugochimobi (talk) 09:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Done. Globe (talk) 11:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- I'd also like to keep my administrator permissions for now. Tali64³ (talk) 03:33, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Done. Globe (talk) 15:49, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- I'd also like to keep my administrator permissions for now. Tali64³ (talk) 03:33, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Rights removed from six (6) users. One by Agent Isai awhile ago; five by me today. Dmehus (talk) 23:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Closure of consul vote with no input...[edit source]
Hey @Dmehus, closure of a Consul election in just under a week with no input from anyone beyond the original nominator seems a bit... unorthodox. I only just happened to see the request today, in fact.
Admittedly I'm not the closest follower of testwiki history, but looking through archives I can't find any other example of comparably brisk/limited input handling for advanced rights aside from speedy closures due to unanimous opposition.
Is there a particular policy/precedent you're using in making this close?
NotAracham (talk) 06:05, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'd also like to see the closure overturned. I don't believe other consuls were notified, there was no site notice, etc.
- I don't think a lack of response can be assumed consensus.
- I'm also not convinced had I had the opportunity to vote that I would have supported. RhinosF1 (talk) 06:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I too would like to see this overturned, this was a unilateral decision that was decided by a single person with no input from other consuls at all. Zppix (Meta | talk to me) 06:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hello! I'd like to thank you all for your input, about closing I'd like to say that whether the proposal is reopened or not and whether I'm consul or not in the end I'll continue to help out on TestWiki and improve my flaws. Even if the closure of the proposal is not reverted, I would like to hear your opinion, even informally, on whether I should become a consul and what I should correct. AlPaD (talk) 07:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with @AlPaD that a more of informal approach should occur next. I’m not sure why all 3 of you are waiting till a few hours after closing to bring this up, when you should’ve voted originally. I’ve messaged @Dmehus on Discord informing him of this discussion. Globe (talk) 11:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- As mentioned, I literally just found out this existed yesterday when I came back into cell reception. It's a holiday weekend for many in the US, so several folks in the conversation may have been outside internet service for the last few days like myself.
- Regardless of reasons/AlPaD's qualifications, I don't personally find that expedited closure with one vote and no consultation with other consuls reflects the 'community consensus' defined in the appointment criteria, but it's not my place to make that call - I simply wanted to raise it as a concern.
- --NotAracham (talk) 14:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with @AlPaD that a more of informal approach should occur next. I’m not sure why all 3 of you are waiting till a few hours after closing to bring this up, when you should’ve voted originally. I’ve messaged @Dmehus on Discord informing him of this discussion. Globe (talk) 11:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hello! I'd like to thank you all for your input, about closing I'd like to say that whether the proposal is reopened or not and whether I'm consul or not in the end I'll continue to help out on TestWiki and improve my flaws. Even if the closure of the proposal is not reverted, I would like to hear your opinion, even informally, on whether I should become a consul and what I should correct. AlPaD (talk) 07:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I too would like to see this overturned, this was a unilateral decision that was decided by a single person with no input from other consuls at all. Zppix (Meta | talk to me) 06:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- NotAracham, thank you for your question. The discussion was open for a week. If I had concerns about the nominee, I would not have closed and would have expressed a view. I did take care into ensuring it was compliant with the current policies and, in particular, in terms of precedents, I followed this Consul request, which Void closed as successful. As with this request, it, too, had only a single participant other than the nominee. Even in my close, I even borrowed and varied Void's wording. Dmehus (talk) 13:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to reply, Doug. I would note that in the case you reference, the request was held open for the better part of 2.5 months before closure, though is otherwise essentially on-par.
- Testwiki's understandably an odd one since folks aren't (for the most part) daily users, hopefully we can come up with some better ways to get community engagement on consequential RfConsulships that reflect the intent of 'community consensus' going forward.
- --NotAracham (talk) 14:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- 1 week is not enough time. Please reopen the discussion and allow further commentary. RhinosF1 (talk) 17:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- While I am definitely involved here, I’d oppose a re-opening of the discussion. In my opinion, 1 week is enough time to comment. If you miss that, it’s on you. Globe (talk) 17:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- TestWiki is not a wiki where it's core community are always active. As far as I know, this wasn't advertised prominently. We can't always be checking every discussion page. RhinosF1 (talk) 18:33, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- While I am definitely involved here, I’d oppose a re-opening of the discussion. In my opinion, 1 week is enough time to comment. If you miss that, it’s on you. Globe (talk) 17:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Still doesn’t excuse the fact you never discussed with other consuls before closing a discussion with so few participants. 1 person does not a consensus make. Zppix (Meta | talk to me) 17:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I don’t think a consul discussion has ever been required to close. If policy says different, please link said policy. In addition, 3 people (not one) supported.
- Globe (talk) 18:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- The candidates opinion of themselves is irrelevant. I don't think it's a codified policy but we would strongly encourage it. It's quite frankly just good manners to ask the others if they had anything to raise. The existing consuls are not exactly a large group. I will make the point of order that this isn't the first request to have one of Doug's closes on this wiki overturned and he also was forced to resign Steward or be removed due to concerns around supervoting. RhinosF1 (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Various observations and requests on this wiki[edit source]
hi, i've been noticing that not all extensions are enabled and wiki forum is linked on the sidebar but the special page doesn't exist because the extension is disabled. may i request all extensions to be enabled? how much this affects the wiki load? i've also noticed that Special:MathStatus is giving a timeout (503), can anything be done about that? Juest (talk) 16:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
About Inactive Rights Removal[edit source]
Hi. May onwards, no one seems to be dealing with Inactive Rights Removal. I think consul needs to do this. Regards! 1108-Kiju (talk) 17:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- @1108-Kiju: Hi, thank you for your report. For some reason the message is not being sent correctly to the talk pages of inactive users. AlPaD (talk) 07:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @AlPaD Thanks for the ping. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 09:33, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oh... Is this some kind of bug? 1108-Kiju (talk) 10:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @1108-Kiju: Hi again and sorry for the late reply! The problem is not bug but I have fix it. AlPaD (talk) 19:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! --1108-Kiju (talk) 05:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @1108-Kiju: Hi again and sorry for the late reply! The problem is not bug but I have fix it. AlPaD (talk) 19:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-08-29[edit source]
The rights of the following users will be removed on or after 2024-08-29 if they do not return to activity:
- 2NumForIce ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- 50829! ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Air Baloon ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Airtransat236 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Asutnima ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Blad ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Carpimaps ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Collei ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Didkkdkdkd ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Farmer Cars ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Galigonen ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Gifted9 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Globe ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Grandmaster Huon ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- HeyTürkiye ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Hoof Hearted ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Hypercane ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Jaben1777 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Juest ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- LisafBia ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Lolkikmoddi ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Mayfair ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- MdsShakil ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- NotAracham ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Ottone ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Sakura emad ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- SummerShores ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Syunsyunminmin ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Tali64³ ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Test User 20221229 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- TestWikiUser ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- The Pro Gamer 2 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- TheLegendaryOrb ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Thingofme ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Trke ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- UnGiglio ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- WikiTester ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Winfinity ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Xacis70013 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Zippybonzo ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- ~rikzun ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Thanks,
- ((SIGNATURE}}
- For the Consul Team
- 2024-08-22 AlPaD (talk) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- This type of inactive rights removal should be taken seriously, and the given notice must be properly formed. In the future, please double check before sending. -- MdsShakil (talk) 09:09, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello and thank you for your reply, sorry for my mistake, I started new inactive rights removal. AlPaD (talk) 19:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- This type of inactive rights removal should be taken seriously, and the given notice must be properly formed. In the future, please double check before sending. -- MdsShakil (talk) 09:09, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-01-15[edit source]
The rights of the following users will be removed on or after 2024-01-15 if they do not return to activity:
- 2NumForIce ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- 50829! ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Air Baloon ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Airtransat236 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Ameisenigel ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Asutnima ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Carpimaps ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Collei ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Didkkdkdkd ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Farmer Cars ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Galigonen ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Gifted9 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Globe ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Grandmaster Huon ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- HeyTürkiye ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Hoof Hearted ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Juest ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- LisafBia ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Lolkikmoddi ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Mayfair ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
NotAracham ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Ottone ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- QuestionQues ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- QuickQuokka ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Sakura emad ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Stevannus rua ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- SummerShores ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Syunsyunminmin ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Tali64³ ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Test User 20221229 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- TestWikiUser ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- The Pro Gamer 2 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- TheBigRedZero ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
TheLegendaryOrb ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Thingofme ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Trke ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- UnGiglio ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- User3854 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- WikiTester ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Winfinity ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Xacis70013 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Zippybonzo ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- ~rikzun ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Thanks,
Rights removed from 40 users AlPaD (talk) 11:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Request add UploadWizard[edit source]
Hello. Sometime I want to upload multiple files. UploadWizard is very convenient for me. How about adding it on TestWiki and Miraheze? Hurohukidaikon (talk) 00:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-03-11[edit source]
The rights of the following users will be removed on or after 2024-03-11 if they do not return to activity:
- Atom studying itself ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- CutieePuppy12 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
ManOMan ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )User resigned- Nexovia ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- RedShip98 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Rich Flight22 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Tanbiruzzaman ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )User resigned- TerboGoodGame ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Thanks,
- AlPaD (talk)
- For the Consul Team
- 2024-03-4
- Rights removed from all except Atom studying itself and Nexovia who are also bureaucrats. Globe (talk) 13:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Rights removed from 2 bureaucrats @Globe: Thank you for your help and sorry for my late response.
- AlPaD (talk) 21:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- No problem! Globe (talk) 23:00, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Oauth install[edit source]
CAN you install Oauth extension.Is for test my new bot for vikidia. Thanks Rafdodo (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- OAuth is under the purview of SRE and enabling an entirely new extension (from what I can tell, this seems to be a request for that) is not within purview of this wiki. BrandonWM (talk - contribs) 02:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Request for comment (common sense page needed)[edit source]
This wiki need Project:Common sense page.
About wikipedia have this page, wikipedia is unvisitable in China. Gongxiang01 (talk) 04:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- There's absolutely no need for this page here. BrandonWM (talk - contribs) 01:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- But rules have it. Gongxiang01 (talk) 12:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rules? BrandonWM (talk - contribs) 01:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- But rules have it. Gongxiang01 (talk) 12:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
How do I delete pages (without requesting administrator)[edit source]
I'd like to test some things with images, which (I believe) doesn't require being an administrator. The policies say to delete pages after you're done (TestWiki:Main policy#Deleting and undeleting pages, TestWiki:Testing policy#Editing and deleting pages), but trying to do so (e.g. on https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/File:Test.png?action=delete) says "The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Administrators."
Do I have to request for admin before carrying out my tests (or, I suppose during or after if I get it fast enough), or is there a way to mark pages for deletion and/or delete pages independently without admin?
- BlankEclair (talk) 13:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- @BlankEclair: According to the permissions list, non-admin users cannot delete pages themselves. --78Meow (Talk) 10:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- So what should I do to clean up after myself? Do I need to request admin or is there somewhere I can go to to request deleting pages? BlankEclair (talk) 08:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- TW:RfP BrandonWM (talk - contribs) 14:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can also simply add
{{delete|reason}}
to the page. Globe (talk) 17:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can also simply add
- TW:RfP BrandonWM (talk - contribs) 14:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- So what should I do to clean up after myself? Do I need to request admin or is there somewhere I can go to to request deleting pages? BlankEclair (talk) 08:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Request for Consul: BrandonWM[edit source]
SVG issue[edit source]
It seems the SVG features are disabled, because any SVG code I entered appear as plain text. I searched the site but only found a blank page. Could you enable SVG so I can run some tests? Spacing form (talk) 17:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Bump... Scrolling up this page, it seems requests of features often go unanswered. To clarify, there's no need to download any new extensions, because Midiawikki has built-in SVG support, as stated on "Manual:Image administration". Hope an admin sees this. Spacing form (talk) 17:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Enable CustomSubtitle[edit source]
I would like to test Extension:CustomSubtitle on this wiki. BlankEclair (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
About DISPLAYTITLE[edit source]
Displaytitle is not working. Googologyer (talk) 03:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Applicable diff: Special:Diff/57499
- It didn't work because the text "Titled page", when removed of formatting, does not equal "Displaytitle test". This is indicated by the automatic category Pages with ignored display titles. This restriction can be removed if a consul unchecks $wgRestrictDisplayTitle in Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-parserfunctions. BlankEclair (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Inactive Rights Removal - 2024-07-25[edit source]
The rights of the following users will be removed on or after 2024-07-25 if they do not return to activity:
- AgentBot ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- AirmanKitten203 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Blahma ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Brewster239 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- BZPN.bot ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
C1K98V ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Chirocca77 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- CutesyCoder ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Doug ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
EPIC ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )Excelsis ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Flordia hater ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Globe ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Hurohukidaikon ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Jaben1777 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Jalpes ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- JustaUsername ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Karol739 test ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Liao ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Liaochina ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Lolkikmoddi ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Matr1x-101 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- MdsShakil ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Mips H0L3 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- MrFCA ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Như Gây Mê ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Nobodythatyouknowloll ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- OrangeStar ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Pasamuel ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Pasmorade ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- PharyngealImplosive7 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Piscolla ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Rafdodo ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- SD hehua ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Smileboy ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )TenWhile6 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )- Test32429 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Thegodofbakedbeans ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Trinicle ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- V0lkanic ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
- Volcanooo456 ( talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights · CentralAuth )
Thanks,
- AlPaD (talk)
- For the Consul Team
- 2024-07-18
Rights removed from 31 users AlPaD (talk) 08:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Request for interface admin[edit source]
Hello everyone! I recently created a script that I tested on my own MediaWiki and found it to work fine. You can see it here: User:BZPN/MassRollback.js. Now I would like to turn it into a gadget. However, to turn it into a gadget, I need interface admin permission. @BrandonWM told me to fill out the request here, so can I ask the consul to grant it? I learned how to do this on my own wiki, so I guess I won't destroy anything :). I have already translated the script, and you can find its description here: User:BZPN/MassRollback. Have a nice day! BZPN 06:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
CheckUser and Oversight[edit source]
Hello. I believe that the CheckUser permission should be granted on TestWiki. Miraheze stewards have the technical ability to grant it. Of course, this should be based on a community vote and the permission would not be for testing purposes. CheckUser could only be granted to combat possible vandalism and only to trusted users by voting. Miraheze could also enable the Oversight permission. It is true that it is more trusted, but what to do if someone, for example, shared their real phone number on TestWiki? You can create such requirements for these groups and minimize the risk. What do you think? BZPN 10:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for raising this, @BZPN. The idea of introducing CheckUser and Oversight permissions on TestWiki is certainly worth discussing. I understand the importance of having tools to address serious issues like vandalism or accidental sharing of private information. However, TestWiki is primarily a testing environment, and adding such high-level permissions could shift its focus. Typically, these permissions are reserved for wikis where the stakes are much higher, and the need for such tools is more pronounced.That being said, if there is enough community interest, we could consider a discussion or vote on this matter. It would be crucial to establish clear guidelines and strict criteria for who could be granted these permissions, ensuring they are used responsibly and only by trusted members.Looking forward to hearing what others think. Mediana (talk) 10:57, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Mediana, You may be right, but just because TestWiki is a testing environment doesn't eliminate the risk. Moreover, bureaucrats and administrators will still be the test groups, and enabling checkuser and oversight would only increase the involvement of constantly active and trusted users (e.g. consuls). BZPN 11:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input, @BZPN. I really appreciate your concern for the security of TestWiki, and you raise a valid point about the risks that still exist, even in a testing environment. Your suggestion to involve active and trusted users like consuls makes a lot of sense.Given the potential impact of enabling these permissions, I think it’s important to gather more feedback from the community. It would be great to hear how others feel about this idea before we move forward. If there’s strong support, we can definitely consider a more formal discussion or vote. Let’s see what the community has to say. Mediana (talk) 11:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BZPN And for a information I contacted one of Global Administrator of Meta Miraheze so this was his reply I would like to tell you that the thing you have proposed has very less chance to be accepted as that’s not really possible as having CU/OS requires a non disclosure agreement with the WikiTide Foundation, and policy for local CU says there must be at least two and it wouldn’t be given for testing. Mediana (talk) 12:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input, @BZPN. I really appreciate your concern for the security of TestWiki, and you raise a valid point about the risks that still exist, even in a testing environment. Your suggestion to involve active and trusted users like consuls makes a lot of sense.Given the potential impact of enabling these permissions, I think it’s important to gather more feedback from the community. It would be great to hear how others feel about this idea before we move forward. If there’s strong support, we can definitely consider a more formal discussion or vote. Let’s see what the community has to say. Mediana (talk) 11:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Mediana, You may be right, but just because TestWiki is a testing environment doesn't eliminate the risk. Moreover, bureaucrats and administrators will still be the test groups, and enabling checkuser and oversight would only increase the involvement of constantly active and trusted users (e.g. consuls). BZPN 11:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will summarize my concerns from our exchange on Discord;
- Neither m:CheckUser or m:Oversight have demonstrated need to be assigned locally. This is a very high bar as you will see on the respective pages. I have actually never addressed a request for either of those on this wiki to date and this is consistent with a majority of wikis.
- I empathize to the desire to remove PII as quickly as possible, but I am satisfied by the need for tight requirements over cutting that corner in response time. Local admins are empowered to use a temporary suppress until oversight arrives, which is still better than it being otherwise public and open to caching and scraping. Likewise it is rare that a circumstance appears for CU where having CU appear just a bit sooner significantly impacts the outcome.
- Advanced access should never be used to 'jog up activity'. Please consider less sensitive methods to pursue this otherwise reasonable desire.
- For these reasons I firmly oppose this concept.
- --raidarr (💬) 12:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
New gadget[edit source]
I invite you to test the gadget I created: MassRollback. Please share your opinion about it and report any errors. BZPN 18:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Bureaucrat removal[edit source]
Please remove bureaucrat right from User:Vanished user 640b1d32d69f4b8933a471d7f1ae202c, thanks. PB2008 (talk) 11:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ping for recently active consuls: @AlPaD, @BrandonWM. BZPN 09:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Done AlPaD (talk) 12:21, 21 August 2024 (UTC)